### Author Topic: Is everything a frequency, is it a harmonic/musical Universe?  (Read 92711 times)

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##### Re: Is everything a frequency, is it a harmonic/musical Universe?
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2010, 05:26:15 »
Electrobleme,
These people and Myself are conversing, I have offered everything I find free.
we are all ONE.
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##### Rodin & Sound waves (from thunderbolts)
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2010, 03:04:16 »

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If the above keyboard is a true representation of the frequencies in Hz of musical chords is it just luck that the A scale follows the pattern of the so-called Rodin fingerprint of god? 1, 2, 4, 8, 7, 5, 1 etc

27.5 = 5
55 = 1
11 = 2
220 = 4
440 = 8
880 = 7
1760 = 5
3520 = 1

I'm not a religious person, but isn't this weird?

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##### Music & 432: Pythagorean tuning and Pythagorean comma
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2010, 04:09:04 »
Music & 432: is everything a frequency?

Lots of frequency stuff on this site carnaval.com

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Pythagorean tuning

Pythagorean tuning is a system of  musical tuning in which the  frequency relationships of all  intervals are based on the ratio  3:2. Its use has been documented as long ago as 3500 B.C. in Babylonian texts[1]. It is the oldest way of tuning the 12-note  chromatic scale and, as such, it is the basis for many other methods of tuning

Pythagorean tuning is tuning based only on the perfect consonances, the (perfect) octave, perfect fifth, and perfect fourth. Thus the major third is considered not a third but a ditone, literally "two tones", and is 81:64 = ( 9:8 )², rather than the independent and harmonic just 5:4, directly below. A whole tone is a secondary interval, being derived from two perfect fifths, (3:2)²/2 = 9:8.

In equal temperament, and most other modern tunings of the chromatic scale, pairs of enharmonic notes such as E flat and D sharp are thought of as being the same note — however, as the above table indicates, in Pythagorean tuning, they theoretically have different ratios, and are at a different frequency. This discrepancy, of about 23.5 cents, or one quarter of a semitone, is known as a Pythagorean comma.

Pythagorean comma

In Western music, 12 perfect fifths and seven octaves are treated as the same interval

In music, when ascending from an initial (low) pitch by a cycle of justly tuned perfect fifths (ratio 3:2), leapfrogging twelve times, one eventually reaches a pitch approximately seven whole octaves above the starting pitch. If this pitch is then lowered precisely seven octaves, it will be discovered that the resulting pitch is 23.46 cents (a very small amount) higher than the initial pitch. This microtonal interval

(long equation!) = 1.0136432647705078125

is called a Pythagorean comma, and sometimes called a ditonic comma.

Put more succinctly, twelve perfect fifths are not exactly equal to seven perfect octaves, and the Pythagorean comma is the amount of the discrepancy.
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##### Einstein’s Piper: The Tzolkin Code Unveiled and Event Synchronicity
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2010, 17:57:14 »

Worth a look and a read from a non EU site emergent-culture.com

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##### The Universe as a Hologram
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2010, 18:25:41 »
The Universe as a Hologram

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The Universe as a Hologram -  Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?

In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris a research team led by physicist  Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did not hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the face of science.
Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat is that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect has caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain away Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical explanations.
University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes Aspect's findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and splendidly detailed hologram.
To understand why Bohm makes this startling assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A hologram is a three- dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser. To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the reflected light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area where the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines. But as soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a three-dimensional image of the original object appears.
The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and then illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the entire image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact version of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a hologram contains all the information possessed by the whole.
The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an entirely new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its history, Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to understand a physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and study its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the universe may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart something constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is made, we will only get smaller wholes.
This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and forth, but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are actually extensions of the same fundamental something.
To enable people to better visualize what he means, Bohm offers the following illustration. Imagine an aquarium containing a fish. Imagine also that you are unable to see the aquarium directly and your knowledge about it and what it contains comes from two television cameras, one directed at the aquarium's front and the other directed at its side. As you stare at the two television monitors, you might assume that the fish on each of the screens are separate entities. After all, because the cameras are set at different angles, each of the images will be slightly different. But as you continue to watch the two fish, you will eventually become aware that there is a certain relationship between them. When one turns, the other also makes a slightly different but corresponding turn; when one faces the front, the other always faces toward the side. If you remain unaware of the full scope of the situation, you might even conclude that the fish must be instantaneously communicating with one another, but this is clearly not the case.
This, says Bohm, is precisely what is going on between the subatomic particles in Aspect's experiment. According to Bohm, the apparent faster-than-light connection between subatomic particles is really telling us that there is a deeper level of reality we are not privy to, a more complex dimension beyond our own that is analogous to the aquarium. And, he adds, we view objects such as subatomic particles as separate from one another because we are seeing only a portion of their reality. Such particles are not separate "parts", but facets of a deeper and more underlying unity that is ultimately as holographic and indivisible as the previously mentioned rose. And since everything in physical reality is comprised of these "eidolons", the universe is itself a projection, a hologram.
In addition to its phantomlike nature, such a universe would possess other rather startling features. If the apparent separateness of subatomic particles is illusory, it means that at a deeper level of reality all things in the universe are infinitely interconnected.The electrons in a carbon atom in the human brain are connected to the subatomic particles that comprise every salmon that swims, every heart that beats, and every star that shimmers in the sky. Everything interpenetrates everything, and although human nature may seek to categorize and pigeonhole and subdivide, the various phenomena of the universe, all apportionments are of necessity artificial and all of nature is ultimately a seamless web.
In a holographic universe, even time and space could no longer be viewed as fundamentals. Because concepts such as location break down in a universe in which nothing is truly separate from anything else, time and three-dimensional space, like the images of the fish on the TV monitors, would also have to be viewed as projections of this deeper order. At its deeper level reality is a sort of superhologram in which the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously. This suggests that given the proper tools it might even be possible to someday reach into the superholographic level of reality and pluck out scenes from the long-forgotten past.
What else the superhologram contains is an open-ended question. Allowing, for the sake of argument, that the superhologram is the matrix that has given birth to everything in our universe, at the very least it contains every subatomic particle that has been or will be -- every configuration of matter and energy that is possible, from snowflakes to quasars, from blue whales to gamma rays. It must be seen as a sort of cosmic storehouse of "All That Is."
Although Bohm concedes that we have no way of knowing what else might lie hidden in the superhologram, he does venture to say that we have no reason to assume it does not contain more. Or as he puts it, perhaps the superholographic level of reality is a "mere stage" beyond which lies "an infinity of further development".

Bohm is not the only researcher who has found evidence that the universe is a hologram. Working independently in the field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram has also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality. Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and where memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies have shown that rather than being confined to a specific location, memories are dispersed throughout the brain.
In a series of landmark experiments in the 1920s, brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what portion of a rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how to perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only problem was that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might explain this curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage.
Then in the 1960s Pribram encountered the concept of holography and realized he had found the explanation brain scientists had been looking for. Pribram believes memories are encoded not in neurons, or small groupings of neurons, but in patterns of nerve impulses that crisscross the entire brain in the same way that patterns of laser light interference crisscross the entire area of a piece of film containing a holographic image. In other words, Pribram believes the brain is itself a hologram.
Pribram's theory also explains how the human brain can store so many memories in so little space. It has been estimated that the human brain has the capacity to memorize something on the order of 10 billion bits of information during the average human lifetime (or roughly the same amount of information contained in five sets of the Encyclopaedia Britannica).
Similarly, it has been discovered that in addition to their other capabilities, holograms possess an astounding capacity for information storage--simply by changing the angle at which the two lasers strike a piece of photographic film, it is possible to record many different images on the same surface. It has been demonstrated that one cubic centimeter of film can hold as many as 10 billion bits of information.
Our uncanny ability to quickly retrieve whatever information we need from the enormous store of our memories becomes more understandable if the brain functions according to holographic principles. If a friend asks you to tell him what comes to mind when he says the word "zebra", you do not have to clumsily sort back through some gigantic and cerebral alphabetic file to arrive at an answer. Instead, associations like "striped", "horselike", and "animal native to Africa" all pop into your head instantly. Indeed, one of the most amazing things about the human thinking process is that every piece of information seems instantly cross- correlated with every other piece of information--another feature intrinsic to the hologram. Because every portion of a hologram is infinitely interconnected with every other portion, it is perhaps nature's supreme example of a cross-correlated system.
The storage of memory is not the only neurophysiological puzzle that becomes more tractable in light of Pribram's holographic model of the brain. Another is how the brain is able to translate the avalanche of frequencies it receives via the senses (light frequencies, sound frequencies, and so on) into the concrete world of our perceptions.
Encoding and decoding frequencies is precisely what a hologram does best. Just as a hologram functions as a sort of lens, a translating device able to convert an apparently meaningless blur of frequencies into a coherent image, Pribram believes the brain also comprises a lens and uses holographic principles to mathematically convert the frequencies it receives through the senses into the inner world of our perceptions.

An impressive body of evidence suggests that the brain uses holographic principles to perform its operations. Pribram's theory, in fact, has gained increasing support among neurophysiologists.
Argentinian-Italian researcher Hugo Zucarelli recently extended the holographic model into the world of acoustic phenomena. Puzzled by the fact that humans can locate the source of sounds without moving their heads, even if they only possess hearing in one ear, Zucarelli discovered that holographic principles can explain this ability. Zucarelli has also developed the technology of holophonic sound, a recording technique able to reproduce acoustic situations with an almost uncanny realism.

Pribram's belief that our brains mathematically construct "hard" reality by relying on input from a frequency domain has also received a good deal of experimental support. It has been found that each of our senses is sensitive to a much broader range of frequencies than was previously suspected. Researchers have discovered, for instance, that our visual systems are sensitive to sound frequencies, that our sense of smellisin part dependent on what are now called "osmic frequencies", and that even the cells in our bodies are sensitive to a broad range of frequencies. Such findings suggest that it is only in the holographic domain of consciousness that such frequencies are sorted out and divided up into conventional perceptions.

But the most mind-boggling aspect of Pribram's holographic model of the brain is what happens when it is put together with Bohm's theory. For if the concreteness of the world is but a secondary reality and what is "there" is actually a holographic blur of frequencies, and if the brain is also a hologram and only selects some of the frequencies out of this blur and mathematically transforms them into sensory perceptions, what becomes of objective reality? Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the religions of the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion, and although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical world, this too is an illusion.
We are really "receivers" floating through a kaleidoscopic sea of frequency, and what we extract from this sea and transmogrify into physical reality is but one channel from many extracted out of the superhologram.
This striking new picture of reality, the synthesis of Bohm and Pribram's views, has come to be called the-holographic paradigm, and although many scientists have greeted it with skepticism, it has galvanized others. A small but growing group of researchers believe it may be the most accurate model of reality science has arrived at thus far. More than that, some believe it may solve some mysteries that have never before been explainable by science and even establish the paranormal as a part of nature. Numerous researchers, including Bohm and Pribram, have noted that many para-psychological phenomena become much more understandable in terms of the holographic paradigm.

In a universe in which individual brains are actually indivisible portions of the greater hologram and everything is infinitely interconnected, telepathy may merely be the accessing of the holographic level.
It is obviously much easier to understand how information can travel from the mind of individual 'A' to that of individual 'B' at a far distance point and helps to understand a number of unsolvedpuzzles in psychology.
In particular,  Stanislav Grof feels the holographic paradigm offers a model for understanding many of the baffling phenomena experienced by individuals during altered states of consciousness. In the 1950s, while conducting research into the beliefs of LSD as a psychotherapeutic tool, Grof had one female patient who suddenly became convinced she had assumed the identity of a female of a species of prehistoric reptile. During the course of her hallucination, she not only gave a richly detailed description of what it felt like to be encapsuled in such a form, but noted that the portion of the male of the species's anatomy was a patch of colored scales on the side of its head. What was startling to Grof was that although the woman had no prior knowledge about such things, a conversation with a zoologist later confirmed that in certain species of reptiles colored areas on the head do indeed play an important role as triggers of sexual arousal. The woman's experience was not unique. During the course of his research, Grof encountered examples of patients regressing and identifying with virtually every species on the evolutionary tree (research findings which helped influence the man-into-ape scene in the movie Altered States). Moreover, he found that such experiences frequently contained obscure zoological details which turned out to be accurate.
Regressions into the animal kingdom were not the only puzzling psychological phenomena Grof encountered. He also had patients who appeared to tap into some sort of collective or racial unconscious. Individuals with little or no education suddenly gave detailed descriptions of Zoroastrian funerary practices and scenes from Hindu mythology. In other categories of experience, individuals gave persuasive accounts of out-of-body journeys, of precognitive glimpses of the future, of regressions into apparent past-life incarnations.
In later research, Grof found the same range of phenomena manifested in therapy sessions which did not involve the use of drugs. Because the common element in such experiences appeared to be the transcending of an individual's consciousness beyond the usual boundaries of ego and/or limitations of space and time, Grof called such manifestations "transpersonal experiences", and in the late '60s he helped found a branch of psychology called "transpersonal psychology" devoted entirely to their study.
Although Grof's newly founded Association of Transpersonal Psychology garnered a rapidly growing group of like-minded professionals and has become a respected branch of psychology, for years neither Grof or any of his colleagues were able to offer a mechanism for explaining the bizarre psychological phenomena they were witnessing. But that has changed with the advent of the holographic paradigm.
As Grof recently noted, if the mind is actually part of a continuum, a labyrinth that is connected not only to every other mind that exists or has existed, but to every atom, organism, and region in the vastness of space and time itself, the fact that it is able to occasionally make forays into the labyrinth and have transpersonal experiences no longer seems so strange.
The holographic paradigm also has implications for so-called hard sciences like biology. Keith Floyd, a psychologist at Virginia Intermont College, has pointed out that if the concreteness of reality is but a holographic illusion, it would no longer be true to say the brain produces consciousness. Rather, it is consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain -- as well as the body and everything else around us we interpret as physical.
Such a turnabout in the way we view biological structures has caused researchers to point out that medicine and our understanding of the healing process could also be transformed by the holographic paradigm. If the apparent physical structure of the body is but a holographic projection of consciousness, it becomes clear that each of us is much more responsible for our health than current medical wisdom allows. What we now view as miraculous remissions of disease may actually be due to changes in consciousness which in turn effect changes in the hologram of the body.
Similarly, controversial new healing techniques such as visualization may work so well because, in the holographic domain of thought, images are ultimately as real as "reality".

Even visions and experiences involving "non-ordinary" reality become explainable under the holographic paradigm. In his book "Gifts of Unknown Things," biologist Lyall Watson describes his encounter with an Indonesian shaman woman who, by performing a ritual dance, was able to make an entire grove of trees instantly vanish into thin air. Watson relates that as he and another astonished onlooker continued to watch the woman, she caused the trees to reappear, then "click" off again and on again several times in succession.

Although current scientific understanding is incapable of explaining such events, experiences like this become more tenable if "hard" reality is only a holographic projection. Perhaps we agree on what is "there" or "not there" because what we call consensus reality is formulated and ratified at the level of the human unconscious at which all minds are infinitely interconnected. If this is true, it is the most profound implication of the holographic paradigm of all, for it means that experiences such as Watson's are not commonplace only because we have not programmed our minds with the beliefs that would make them so. In a holographic universe there are no limits to the extent to which we can alter the fabric of reality.

What we perceive as reality is only a canvas waiting for us to draw upon it any picture we want. Anything is possible, from bending spoons with the power of the mind to the phantasmagoric events experienced by Castaneda during his encounters with the Yaqui brujo don Juan, for magic is our birthright, no more or less miraculous than our ability to compute the reality we want when we are in our dreams.
Indeed, even our most fundamental notions about reality become suspect, for in a holographic universe, as Pribram has pointed out, even random events would have to be seen as based on holographic principles and therefore determined. Synchronicities or meaningful coincidences suddenly makes sense, and everything in reality would have to be seen as a metaphor, for even the most haphazard events would express some underlying symmetry.

Whether Bohm and Pribram's holographic paradigm becomes accepted in science or dies an ignoble death remains to be seen, but it is safe to say that it has already had an influence on the thinking of many scientists. And even if it is found that the holographic model does not provide the best explanation for the instantaneous communications that seem to be passing back and forth between subatomic particles, at the very least, as noted by Basil Hiley, a physicist at Birbeck College in London, Aspect's findings "indicate that we must be prepared to consider radically new views of reality".

The Universe as a Hologram  | Michael Talbot | twm.co.nz

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##### planets and moons orbits, fluke or frequency? the solar system in harmony :)
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2010, 07:56:12 »

planets and moons orbits, fluke or frequency? the solar system in harmony

the moon is "largest" or closest to the earth when it is full, in an alignment of the sun/earth/moon (click here for more details and images). then at other times do we have
sun/earth/moon/mars/
sun/earth/venus
etc.

other planets and especially moons seem to be in either lucky periods or are locked in on their host planet. how is this possible in a universe where gravity is the weakest fundamental force? are the earth and venus also "locked" or in harmony?

as these events happen more than once and between different planets/bodies in our solar system it has to be the solar system is in a fequency or works in harmony. i wonder how our solar system works in harmony with the rest of the electric universe?

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"This month (Jan) has the largest full moon of 2010, because it coincides with the special moment when the full moon happens to occur on the same day as it is at perigee," said Marc Jobin, an astronomer at the Montréal Planetarium.

And in a remarkable coincidence, Mars is at opposition Friday—directly opposite to the sun in the sky—so that as the sun sets in the southwest, Mars rises in the northeast.

Around opposition, the red planet gets closest to Earth. This year Mars swung by at just 61 million miles (98 million kilometers) on January 27, and it will still appear remarkably bright during the weekend sky show.

"To the naked eye it will appear as a bright, orange-colored star right next to the full moon—the pair will jump out at you for sure," Jobin said.
Year's Biggest Full Moon, Mars Create Sky Show | nationalgeographic.com

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"When opposition occurs, Mars is on the opposite side [of Earth] from the sun. If viewed from above the solar system, the sun, Earth, and Mars would be in a straight path," Singh said.

Adding to the cosmic spectacle, on the night of opposition Mars will appear fairly close to the full moon, and the pair will glide together across the sky.

Mars Easy to See

The exact distance between Mars and Earth changes over time, because the orbits of the planets are not perfect circles, but elongated ellipses.

This orbital setup means Mars makes a close pass by Earth roughly every two years.
Year's Best Mars View Tonight | nationalgeographic.com

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Other cases of locked-in rotation

Moons whose rotation is "locked in" or "synchronous"--always presenting the same face to the parent body--are surprisingly common in the solar system, especially inner moons, close to the planet. All four "Galilean satellites" of Jupiter are synchronous: volcanic Io, Europa, Ganymede and Callisto, all discovered by Galileo. The 5 inner moons of Saturn are similarly synchronous, as is Iapetus, more distant, the mysterious half-dark-half-light moon which in Arthur Clarke's book "2001, Space Odyssey" was the gateway to another world.

The rotation of the planet Mercury is locked onto the Sun in a strange way--three rotations every two orbits. And the strange rotation of Venus, from east to west, unlike Earth--seems to be locked on Earth. The lock seems imperfect and may be accidental, but the fact is that every time Venus is closest to Earth, it presents us with almost exactly the same face. Venus is covered by dense clouds, and the radar-carrying Magellan mission has mapped almost all of its surface in great detail. Before that, though, the main tool for studying the surface were radio telescopes, doubling as radar dishes for bouncing signals off the planet. Only imperfect images could be obtained, but astronomers were frustrated to find that on every closest approach, the same face presented itself.
Libration of the Moon | nasa.gov

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##### Re: Is everything a frequency, is it a harmonic/musical Universe?
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2010, 04:39:37 »
Electrobleme,
All of creation is in scalar fashion acting in this spiral cyclic fashion, as above, so below.
From thunderbolts,
http://iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/9/8/263/fulltext
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##### Venus in Lockstep with Earth - TPOD
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2010, 06:13:52 »

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Venus in Lockstep

Mar  24, 2010
It has long been known that Venus and Earth are somehow gravitationally bound.

According to a  recent press release, an old theory about the resonant orbits of Venus and Earth has been resurrected. Whenever Venus arrives at its closest approach to Earth, called an inferior conjunction, it always turns the same face toward our planet. The implication of that arrangement is that Earth and its sister planet are exerting some kind of influence on each other. Since there is no other force known to astronomers that can act between planets, that influence must be gravitational.

An inferior conjunction of Venus takes place when it is aligned between Earth and the Sun. At that time, it is approximately 41 million kilometers away from our planet. However, planetary scientists insist that gravity is too weak to form a resonant lock, leading to an Electric Universe theory that the two planets were once much closer.

Venus is actually in near resonance with Earth. In order for an exact orbital resonance to exist, Venus would have to rotate in 243.16 days, but its actual period is 243.01 days. This close alignment suggests that it might be moving out of a resonant pattern that was once more precise.

One factor besides gravity that might contribute to its face-to-face dance with Earth is that Venus has a long ion tail that extends outward for more than 45 million kilometers. During inferior conjunction, that electrically charged structure can interact with our magnetosphere. What if that electrical connection was much stronger in the past?

Venus is evidently a young planet and still retains some of the cometary characteristics that were once visible to the ancients. Electric Universe theorist Wal Thornhill writes:

"Venus, with its cometary tail, is evidently still discharging strongly today after a recent cometary past noted globally by ancient witnesses. Venus was described variously as a ‘hairy star’ or ‘bearded star’ and a stupendous prodigy in the sky. Today, Venus’ comet tail operates in the dark discharge mode and is invisible. It can only be detected by magnetometers and charged particle detectors."

More than 60 years ago, a radical new approach to Solar System dynamics was placed in the public record by a brilliantly inventive scientist, Immanuel Velikovsky. Although various details of his theory have been revised in light of recent discoveries, his essential premise continues to inspire others, including this reporter, to pursue further insights. Prior to the Solar System we know today, there was another arrangement whose downfall became manifest in the mythology of every civilization able to record it for posterity.

Once, perhaps as little as 5000 years ago, the planets were seen as veritable gods, with tremendous powers and chaotic aspects. Those godlike luminaries cast violent energies upon each other and upon Earth: boiling seas, melting mountain ranges, raising sky high tornadoes of fire, and hurling lightning bolts sufficient to vaporize any human work.

The planet-gods did not revolve in the stately orbits we see today. Instead, they encroached on each other, looming large and then retreating, only to rush together in conflict again. During those encounters, Venus and Earth exchanged gigantic outbursts of electric discharge. In those bolts of interplanetary lightning they formed an electromagnetic bond. It was probably then that the orbital resonance that both planets share came into existence.

As time passes, the intimate relationship once shared by Gaea and Aphrodite is beginning to fade. The long ion tail of Venus that continues to brush Earth with its faint electric tickle indicates that it is still in a state of discharge as it slowly regains equilibrium with the Solar System's overall balance. The past appearance of Venus as a terrifying comet with fire-like tendrils and monstrous features has been detailed elsewhere in these pages. For now, let it be said that the goddess is sleeping, and in her slumber we are drifting apart.

Stephen Smith
Venus in Lockstep | TPOD

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##### Lord Vishnus conch produce a sound related to the original vibration of universe
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2010, 20:38:51 »

linking in with the idea of cymatics ... and also how frequencies/energies may influence and change us

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Lord Vishnu is also seen standing on the whirl of a lotus flower with four hands, which represent the four directions and indicates His absolute power in the four corners of the universe. Each hand holds an item, such as a disc, lotus, conch, and mace. Of the four items, the conch represents the five universal elements. When the conch is blown, it is said to produce a sound related to the original vibration of universal creation. The Lord also blows His conch in calling everyone to turn to the higher reality rather than remaining in the darkness of material existence. This calling is the inner voice which nudges all beings of conscience to seek the Absolute Truth. If man does not heed the call, then the Lord may still use His conch to cut asunder the ego and material attachments of those who do not turn toward the spiritual path.
Lord Vishnu | stephen-knapp.com

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##### Re: Is everything a frequency, is it a harmonic/musical Universe?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2010, 16:26:29 »
Someone recently described two worlds to me, the seen one and the unseen one.  Both would seem to occupy the same space, and she believes that the unseen world is far more real and important than the seen one, although humans put much more emphasis and importance on the seen world.

She sees parts of the unseen world at different times, and she has described different animals to me.  Birds which are completely different to the ones in the seen world with colours which don't exist in the seen world.  She described them as not being quite all there.. like a hologram is how she put it.  Like light, but looks almost tangible.

This person is nearing the end of her time on this earth - why is it only now that she can see the unseen.... now that she faces death, she has become more in tune with both worlds.  It makes you wonder just what you are not seeing on a day to day basis - what are we missing out on and how do we connect to the unseen?

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##### holographic universe and the afterlife or otherlife
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2010, 15:05:40 »
perhaps our "soul" or the universe knows what is happening and so starts to tune us into the bigger and greater picture? so its not a shock and its a lot easier for us to transform or change our frequency into what is either the afterlife or the actual other life that perhaps the animals and other life forms in the universe know is out there?

as to the animals and colours she sees it reminds me of spirit guides and also the strange egyptian animal gods that you see. in the past the Electric Universe energy was much stronger in our solar system or our planet, this created all the amazing sounds/sights/experiences seen and felt by the ancients. did this also help them to tune in or see the other holographic universes/energies out there?

or was it because they were not so advanced that they could not just see but beleive that there is a a different world/universe out there to the mere physical one our advanced civilised world believes is the only one?

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##### Re: Is everything a frequency, is it a harmonic/musical Universe?
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2010, 14:07:56 »
Someone recently described two worlds to me, the seen one and the unseen one.  Both would seem to occupy the same space, and she believes that the unseen world is far more real and important than the seen one, although humans put much more emphasis and importance on the seen world.

She sees parts of the unseen world at different times, and she has described different animals to me.  Birds which are completely different to the ones in the seen world with colours which don't exist in the seen world.  She described them as not being quite all there.. like a hologram is how she put it.  Like light, but looks almost tangible.

This person is nearing the end of her time on this earth - why is it only now that she can see the unseen.... now that she faces death, she has become more in tune with both worlds.  It makes you wonder just what you are not seeing on a day to day basis - what are we missing out on and how do we connect to the unseen?

Hello,
IMHO it is to do with geometry, each dimension exists in the self same local, but upon different geometry.
Your personal geometry is of the here and now relative to this reality.
To connect across , or TRIP across onto alternative geometry involves been able to modulate Your personal geometry to phase into tune with whatever other.
I find that the sequencing is fibonacci based, so in simple terms imagine been a 34 in a 34 reality, but if You expand, or contract as people do when dying, then You may become a 5 or 89 etc etc
The base substance of universe is capable of holding infinite combinations of such in the self same local.
To control this reality, the knowledge and ability to modulate has been restricted to a certain few.
Kevin

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##### Re: Is everything a frequency, is it a harmonic/musical Universe?
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2010, 16:01:07 »
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so in simple terms imagine been a 34 in a 34 reality, but if You expand, or contract as people do when dying, then You may become a 5 or 89 etc etc

Can you explain further what you mean by expanding/contracting when dying?  Does it apply to birth/early years too, as I sometimes have the impression babies can see/hear things adults can't.

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To control this reality, the knowledge and ability to modulate has been restricted to a certain few.

How does one become one of the certain few?  Is it something you are born as, or can you train yourself to become one?

Do you see alternate realities, animals or such like?

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##### Re: Is everything a frequency, is it a harmonic/musical Universe?
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2010, 00:46:10 »
Abbey sam,
A bit upset at the mo.
A really bright and gifted one has left the electric universe , and He was king of the jungle, I sure will miss Him.
If I simplify the geometry to diameter?
Babies are enormous, usually 60 feet radius, whilst aged people can be down to a foot or so, as are those with alzhiemers/MS/ cancer etc.
The universal grid I detect has similer diameters involved, and it is akin to a key and a lock.
The babies are probably seeing very different realities until their geometry shrinks into the here and now diameter.
Google INDIGO CHILDREN, and I know many, they maintain this expanded diameter of detectable field measure, thus they stress the substance of universe and are seen by some as indigo coloured.
Kevin
Thinking of 3,6,9s and Junglelord beating that out on His drums.

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##### Re: Is everything a frequency, is it a harmonic/musical Universe?
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2010, 15:54:53 »
Sorry to hear that news Kevin.  Although it is part of life and inevitable, it is a strange phenomenon for those left behind and each experience is totally unique, from the moment that you hear the news to the moment you feel you can start to feel better - nobody can tell you how to grieve or for how long.  I hope you feel better soon.

Thank you for explaining further regarding the diameters and I will give this some further thought.  I find it fascinating that the younger you are, the bigger you are, and then it is a constant dwindle.  Its like life explodes into being and takes a lifetime to settle.  Perhaps that is why people tell me that you never really know who you really are until you reach your 40s.. perhaps by then things have started to settle down and tuning into your own conscience is easier.