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gEUlogy - the geology of the earth in an Electric Universe => ?electric EYEs ?What Dont You See => : electrobleme May 18, 2010, 17:40:32

: ?What Dont You See - gEUlogy - mountains and canyons
: electrobleme May 18, 2010, 17:40:32

mountains and canyons - erosion, Lichtenberg or lightning strikes?

are mountain ranges and canyons formed by water erosion over millions of years or are they created by much quicker events in an electric universe?

What Dont You See?
: electric EYEs - mountains and canyons
: electrobleme May 18, 2010, 17:47:06
electric EYEs - mountains and canyons - formed by Lichtenberg/lightning ?

(http://www.everythingselectric.com/images/lichtenberg-figures-patterns-home-made-lightning-triangle.jpg) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/picture-galleries/6709252/Captured-Lightning-fractal-like-Lichtenberg-figures-frozen-in-acrylic-blocks-by-Bert-Hickman.html?image=13) (http://www.everythingselectric.com/images/lichtenberg-figures-earth-natural-putorana-plateau-siberian-traps.jpg) (http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/arch08/080423siberiantraps.htm)
lichtenberg pattern - plasma discharge - and mountains (siberian traps)

?What Dont You See

when an object is slowly charged up and discharged (video clip of Lichtenberg discharge) (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1417302205?bctid=1419758473) it can create a postive or negative Lichtenberg Pattern (, also known as a Lichtenberg Figure (see images/links at bottom of that page) (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=185.0) . most large mountain ranges on earth have a Lichtenberg Pattern structure, this can be seen especially when they are snow covered. were mountains caused by a discharged of the earth or a "local" discharge in that area?

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/mountains-canyons-lichtenberg/grand-canyon-usa-lightning-strike-victim-humans.jpg) (http://www.wogemaps.com/grand-canyon-lightning-strike.html)
grand canyon usa and human - both lightning bolt victims?

the grand canyon usa is an amazing "hole in the ground". when you see it for yourself you will be stunned. the geology issues with it is that how did that river cause it when the grand canyon is found on the high point of the area? where did all the waste go, how did the river keep flowing long enough etc

another option is that it was caused very, very quickly by a "thunderbolt of the god" in an electric universe catastrophe.

Lichtenberg pattern plasma discharge - what discharged the earth?

does the earths geology show examples of positive and negative Lichtenberg Pattern? does the earths gEUlogy show examples of positive and negative lightning strikes? is there a difference between a Lichtenberg discharge and a lightning strike? or are they variations of each other?

does a negative or a positive create an upwards formation or a downwards formation?

What are Lichtenberg figures, and how do we create them? ( - great website on lichtenbergs


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** thunderbolts TPOD (http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/00subjectx.htm#Earth_Geology) | Earth Geology
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: lichtenberg figures and lightning discharge patterns
: electrobleme May 18, 2010, 18:37:16

lichtenberg figures and lightning discharge patterns

fractal nature Lichtenberg figure/patterns

the Lichtenberg figure/pattern seems to have a fractal nature to it and you have the classic images of a Lichtenberg discharge but there are other variations that may give clues or answers to the electric universe geology that we can see on earth and other planets. what other gEUlogical features are there on earth and other planets that could be the result of a lichteberg discharge or a lightning strike discharge (the damage caused by a lightning strike appears to happen when the lightning "stops", similar to a lichtenberg discharge).

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/mountains-canyons-lichtenberg/Positive-Lichtenberg-figure-pattern-plasma-discharge.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/mountains-canyons-lichtenberg/Negative-Lichtenberg-figure-pattern-plasma-discharge.jpg)
Positive and Negative Lichtenberg figure/pattern plasma discharge

its not just geology that the discharges show, the martian spiders show similar features to a discharge and there are other patterns and geological features on other planets that show similar effects. one of the mantras of the Electric Universe theory is that plasma effects are scalable

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/mountains-canyons-lichtenberg/mars-spiders-dark-dune-spots-images-martian-forum.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/mountains-canyons-lichtenberg/mars-spiders-dark-dune-spots-images-martian.jpg)
mars spiders - electric universe discharge

the mars spiders appear and dissapear and in a gravity universe they are a puzzle. they are associated with the dark dune spots on mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geysers_on_Mars).

Positive and Negative Lichtenberg dischage experiment

golf course lightning strike Positive Lichtenberg figure/pattern

mercurys spider crater (http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/arch08/080204mercuryterrain.htm) or electric universe discharge?

: how are man made Lichtenberg discharge figures created?
: electrobleme May 18, 2010, 19:06:20

how are man made Lichtenberg discharge figures created?

this information and images is from the great lichtenberg/tesla site called Bert Hickman's TeslaMania Site (

klydonograph lichtenberg experiments and photographs

(19th and 20th century reasearchers) ... used photographic film to directly capture the faint light emitted by positive or negative high voltage discharges along dielectric surfaces. Von Hippel discovered that Lichtenberg figures were actually created through complex interactions between ionized gas (corona or small electrical sparks, called streamers) and the dielectric surface below. It was also found that increasing the applied voltage, or reducing the surrounding gas pressure, caused the length of the figures to increase. This property was applied in klydonographs, special recording instruments that photographically recorded the size and shape of Lichtenberg figures that appeared during abnormal electrical surges on power lines
Bert Hickman's TeslaMania Site (

positive Lichtenberg figure moment of discharge

When an acrylic specimen is irradiated by relativistic electrons, the electrons are driven into the acrylic. The depth of penetration is determined by the energy of the electron beam, the target material's dielectric properties, and its atomic density. The higher the electron beam energy, the deeper the electrons penetrate. As the specimen is irradiated, huge numbers of electrons accumulate inside, creating a cloud-like layer of excess negative electrical charge called a space charge. Since acrylic is an excellent electrical insulator, the injected electrons become temporarily trapped. As they accumulate, they form a plane of negative space charge deep inside the specimen. By passing specimens through the beam in two or more passes, or by rotating them while they're being irradiated, complex 3-dimensional space charge regions can also be produced. As the space charge builds, the internal electrical field increases dramatically. Eventually, the immense electrical stress overcomes the dielectric strength of the acrylic, and some of the chemical bonds that hold the acrylic molecules together are ripped apart. This strips away additional free electrons (a process called ionization). These newly-freed electrons are also accelerated by the electric field, ionizing even more acrylic molecules, and creating additional free electrons in a runaway process.

Within billionths of a second, thin electrically conductive channels form within the acrylic, and the material suddenly undergoes dielectric breakdown. As breakdown occurs, previously trapped charges suddenly rush out. Thousands of electrically conductive branches feed their current into the main "lightning bolt" channel that exits the acrylic with a brilliant flash and a loud BANG. Although the "Tree of Fire" discharge suggests that we are injecting high voltage into the block, in reality we are removing excess charge that was previously trapped within the block. Dielectric breakdown occurs within an incredibly short interval. For example, the electrical discharges within a 2 inch square specimen last for less than 60 billionths of a second! The above image shows a 4 inch square specimen at the instant of discharge

The miniature lightning bolts leave permanent fingerprints in the acrylic, forming a complex, branching "lightning fossil" within. The current within the electrical discharge is typically hundreds, or even thousands, of amperes. The hot plasma within the discharge causes the acrylic to melt and fracture along each path, and higher current "roots" may slightly char the acrylic. The exit point of the discharge appears as a small crater on the surface of the acrylic. The discharge point is typically located at a surface defect, or where a point of external mechanical stress has weakened the dielectric. A defect concentrates the electric field, creating a small region where the breakdown process can begin. Although we inject a huge amount of negative charge into our specimens, electrical breakdown actually originates from points which are more electrically positive (versus the space charge layer), so our Captured Lightning® sculptures are actually "positive" Lichtenberg figures!
Bert Hickman's TeslaMania Site (

: Re: ?What Dont You See - gEUlogy - mountains and canyons
: Remelic May 19, 2010, 00:31:11
This is beautiful!! exactly what I needed for my research! I am doing a study on the Earth and discharge over the surface but I have never come across these pictures before of Neg+Pos patterns. When I am finished writing I will post it here. Good work!
: natural negative lichtenberg patterns on rock = electric earth?
: electrobleme May 19, 2010, 01:17:52

here are some more patterns that look like negative lichtenberg figures or thats what i think anyway! either that or its very strange markings on limestome and always found on the same type of rock in the same gEUlogy circumstances

(http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/528-brain-pattern-negativelichtenbergfigure-cartruts-malta.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=528)
negative lichtenberg figure? electrical discharge on rock?

this is found at one of malta's cart ruts sites - Busewdien near Saint Pauls Bay (http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/introdis-busewdien-stpaulsbay.html)

(http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/380-negative-lichtenbergfigure-orbrainpatternrock.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=380)
more negative lichtenberg patterns? sophie (http://www.geulogy.com/introdis-powerline-sophie.htmll) rock line on malta

this pattern is found on malta where there is a special type of rock covering, the rock is very, very grey, it really stands out in an area in both senses. firstly because of its odd colour and secondly because the grey rock is the largest rock/boulder/formation in the area (if only a few feet tall).

i have suggested it is a natural electrical discharge in an electric universe. not sure if it was very quick (catastrophe when Maltas "temple builders" dissapeared or very long term natural process (like electrical treeing).

not sure how the things they were found on were made though! cart ruts and those limestone lines. perhaps natural perhaps man made, maybe a mixture of both. who knows.

forgive the webpages if you look at them, they were the first things i wrote so pages dont look great, writing is not that good either and ideas may have changed since then. pages will be updated one of these days!