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: Earths Electrical Circuit in an Electric Universe - XEarth
: electrobleme September 15, 2009, 18:46:02
If it is an Electrical Universe then there has to be electrical circuits.
No circuits, no Electric Universe. Simple.

(http://www.everythingselectric.com/images/earths-electrical-circuit-in-an-electric-universe-diagram-forum.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=1291)
Diagram of the Earths Global Electrical Weather Circuit (http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=898&page=1) and also its Electric Universe Circuit

The earth is one massive electrical component in an Electrical Universe. If it is not an Electric Universe then why is the Earth such a perfect natural electrical component? Everything is electric including our weather.

The diagram above shows some of the electrical weather and parts of the circuits. More will be discovered every year, more will connect with each other and more will be shown to connect the earth to the sun and the Electric Universe.

The diagram is from the The Earth's Electrical Environment (http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=898&page=1) a free online ebook from the National Academies Press

An introduction to the Earths electric global weather circuit and also some of the exchange mechanisms to the rest of the Electric Universe can be found here (http://everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=57.0).

red sprites, elves, blue jets, part of the earths electric weather circuit

: The Black Sea, the Mediterraneans Sea and the Bosporus wire
: electrobleme September 22, 2009, 03:20:15
The Black Sea,  the Mediterraneans sea,  the Sea of Marmara connected by the Bosporus EU wire
The Black Sea has a "water exchange" mechanism where 2 types of water flow in the opposite direction. Water from the Mediterranean flows in and the Black Sea water flows out. The Black Sea outlfow is more than its inflow so its water balance is positive.

The Black sea is also a meromictic sea in that the 2 types of water do not mix so it has 2 distinct layers. But the inflow and outflow waters travel through the same water way (Bosporus) and they also do not mix there. So why does water flow into the Black Sea?

The Black Seas water is of a more warmer and "fresher water" type than the saltier and colder Mediterranean Sea. The water from the Mediterranean (Aegean Sea) flows into the deep Sea of Marmara and then flows along the bottom of the Bosporus river up into the Black Sea, while the Black Seas water flows down the Bosporus river on top of the Mediterranean water into the Sea of Marmara.

That is what the text books and Wikipedia will inform you but it still does not explain why you can have water flowing in different directions on top of each other. Water flows downhill? Combined with the fact that the Black Sea flows out more water than it has flowing in there should be no reason for Mediterranean Sea water to flow into the Black Sea.

Unless the Mediterranean and Black Sea water is an exchange system in an Electrical Universe? Different types of water would appear to nature like a positive and a negative.

If it is an Electric Universe exchange system then the rest of what happens in the Black Sea should show signs of being part EU Theory weather (weathEU) and would have similarities to electrical circuit components.

The Black Sea has a Rim Current (gyre) where water is moved around its perimeter. It has a western and eastern current (gyre). The Black Sea also has coastal eddies or currents. EU circuits, wiring and transformers/converters (engines).

The Black Sea has a Cold Intermediate Layer (CIL) with the CIL water apparently being created in the center of the eastern and western gyres. The distinct CIL layer seperates the lakes waters. The top water gets colder until it reaches the bottom of the CIL at the thermocline  found there.  After the thermocline the deeper the water gets the more warmer it becomes. EU layers.

: SIDS - Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance
: electrobleme January 20, 2010, 17:24:55

SIDS - Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance

SIDS - Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance

Fast and slow solar winds, space tornadoes, Flux Transfer Events, Solar Flares... in an Electrical Universe there has to be circuits between everything (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=131.0). No circiuts, no Electric Earth, no Electric Universe.

: Re: SIDS - Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance
: ElectricUniverse February 08, 2010, 08:28:01

Fast and slow solar winds, space tornadoes, Flux Transfer Events, Solar Flares... in an Electrical Universe there has to be circuits between everything (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=131.0). No circiuts, no Electric Earth, no Electric Universe.

OH, yes, well I quite agree. In the end, it is ALL about the fact that all of these EM field lines are bounded and connected to those circuits both larger to infiniti, and those circuits smaller as well. Of course the largest question is, from whence cometh this interconnective circuitry?  ??? Well, me thinks the answer to this question is a "who" rather than a "what", but I certainly cannot prove it.  ;)
: Re: Earths Electrical Circuit in an Electric Universe - XEarth
: electrobleme February 08, 2010, 23:49:06

"what" and "who"

for me personally the "what" of the EU Theory seems to explain both sides of the argument, both for and against a "who"/"whom". The EU seems to work in such a natural way, scalability, electromagnetic forces, circuits, positive and negative feedback etc. it even gives a reasoned explanation for the Gaia idea, with scalability for a UniGaia/GaiaVerse

but i personally wonder about how and why did it all start. although it can work naturally without a "who"/"whom" the Universe is so amazing that a "who"/"whom" is always a possibility in the background.

any ideas of how/what/why it could have started and a "who"/"whom"?

: Earth and Titan's Global Electric Circuits (GEC)
: electrobleme February 15, 2010, 06:27:16
Earth and Titan's Global Electric Circuits (GEC)

Electrical properties of ions in the atmosphere of Titan

...In a global electric circuit, thunderstorms or other discharges generate a potential difference between a conductive upper atmosphere and surface. Away from these “disturbed weather” regions, there is a slow drift current of ions or electrons through the weakly conducting atmosphere. Huygens provided the first in situ extraterrestrial atmospheric electrostatic measurements,and is therefore well placed to investigate the suggestion that global circuits could exist on other planets. In the final part of this paper, evidence for a global electric circuit on Titan is discussed to put the microphysical work into context...

4. Titan global electric circuit
The model of a global electric circuit (GEC) was first suggested by C.T.R. Wilson. On Earth, thunderstorms and shower clouds charge up the ionosphere with respect to the ground, and an ionic drift current moving in the electric field between the ionosphere and surface closes the circuit.
Recently, the idea of a GEC has been applied to other planets, in particular Mars, but also across the Solar System. For Titan, several of the basic criteria for a global circuit, as defined in, have already been fulfilled, for example, the existence of polar atmospheric molecules, mobile charged particles and a conductive upper layer. Other aspects of a possible Titan global circuit will be briefly discussed below in the light of the Huygens observations: the mechanism returning charge to ground and the important parameter air conductivity, and its ratio to the surface conductivity.

4.1. “Disturbed weather”
A global circuit needs to have both charge separation, and discharges or precipitation, to maintain the surface-ionosphere electric field. Models predict that Titan cloud-to-ground lightning could occur from collisional cloud charging. The type, frequency and intensity of any electrical discharges are unknown.
Lightning on Titan may be rare due to the lack of solar radiation to initiate convective activity. However, the existence of precipitation, both from violent convective storms, and drizzle from stratiform methane-nitrogen clouds seems likely. Terrestrial clouds readily become charged even in relatively quiescent conditions, and precipitation carrying this charge can contribute to the global circuit. If the analogy to Earth’s hydrological system can be extended, the precipitation current could provide an important global charge exchange mechanism in the Titan environment, if electrical discharges are infrequent or weak. Further work is needed to assess the probable charging mechanisms for the cloud types observed and expected on Titan.

4.2. Air and surface conductivity
Huygens has measured the conductivity of the Titan surface to be 4x10-10Sm-1. This seems relatively insulating with respect to the air, since the measured conductivity due to electrons, which will dominate over any positive ion conductivity, between 0-60km is 10-10-10-9Sm-1. The ratio of surface conductivity to atmospheric conductivity is not as large as on Earth, but the possible observation of a Schumann-like resonance suggests that there could be a sufficiently conductive layer to establish a resonant cavity.

5. Conclusions
The Relaxation Potential Inversion Method for extracting mobility information from relaxation of a cylindrical condenser has been extended to a disc-shaped probe. Unfortunately the combination of the existence of free electrons and the loss of positive ion data has prevented the RPIM being applied in an extraterrestrial atmosphere. There is scope to use it in the future to voltage decays obtained during testing of the Huygens RP in the terrestrial atmosphere.

The direct evidence from Huygens supports the existence of a global electric circuit on Titan, in which it can be expected that precipitation charge exchange, as on Earth, plays an important role.

Electrical properties of ions in the atmosphere of Titan (pdf) (http://www.theplasmaverse.com/pdfs/Electrical_properties_of_ions_in_the_atmosphere_of_Titan_Global_Electrical_Circuit.pdf)
: natural CERNS - electric thunder and lightning storms
: electrobleme May 14, 2010, 06:32:35

Dr Fullekrug ...  They provide a fascinating example of the interaction between the Earth and the wider Universe."

why in a gravity universe is there a connection going upwards?

this natural CERN found above thunderstorms is part of the earths global electric weather circuit that links into space, our sun and solar system. then to the rest of the electric universe. the lower part of the circuit is made up by the air rushing towards the base of the storm, full of charged particles that you can sometimes smell.

its an electric wind, in an electric storm, on an electric earth in an electric universe.

A lightning researcher at the University of Bath has discovered that during thunderstorms, giant natural particle accelerators can form 40 kilometers above the surface of the Earth.

On April 14, Dr. Martin Fullekrug presented his new work at the RAS National Astronomy Meeting (NAM 2010) in Glasgow.

When particularly intense lightning discharges in thunderstorms coincide with high-energy particles coming in from space (cosmic rays), nature provides the right conditions to form a giant particle accelerator above the thunderclouds.

The cosmic rays strip off electrons from air molecules and these electrons are accelerated upwards by the electric field of the lightning discharge. The free electrons and the lightning electric field then make up a natural particle accelerator.

The accelerated electrons then develop into a narrow particle beam which can propagate from the lowest level of the atmosphere (the troposphere), through the middle atmosphere and into near-Earth space, where the energetic electrons are trapped in the Earth's radiation belt and can eventually cause problems for orbiting satellites. These are energetic events and for the blink of an eye, the power of the electron beam can be as large as the power of a small nuclear power plant.

The trick to determining the height of one of the natural particle accelerators is to use the radio waves emitted by the particle beam, explains Dr. Fullekrug.

These radio waves were predicted by his co-worker Dr. Robert Roussel-Dupré using computer simulations at the Los Alamos National Laboratory supercomputer facility.

A team of European scientists, from Denmark, France, Spain and the UK helped to detect the intense lightning discharges in southern France which set up the particle accelerator. They monitored the area above thunderstorms with video cameras and reported lightning discharges which were strong enough to produce transient airglows above thunderstorms known as sprites. A small fraction of these sprites were found to coincide with the particle beams.

The zone above thunderstorms has been a suspected natural particle accelerator since the Scottish physicist and Nobel Prize winner Charles Thomson Rees Wilson speculated about lightning discharges above these storms in 1925.

In the next few years five different planned space missions (the TARANIS, ASIM, CHIBIS, IBUKI and FIREFLY satellites) will be able to measure the energetic particle beams directly.

Dr Fullekrug comments: "It's intriguing to see that nature creates particle accelerators just a few miles above our heads. Once these new missions study them in more detail from space we should get a far better idea of how they actually work. They provide a fascinating example of the interaction between the Earth and the wider Universe."

Giant Natural Particle Accelerator Above Thunderclouds | sciencedaily.com (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100413202850.htm)

: why does earths visible weather only happen in the troposphere?
: electrobleme May 26, 2010, 20:20:20

why does earths visible weather only happen in the troposphere?

earths atmosphere structure/layers and temp differences

the structure of the earths atmosphere is very specific although its heights can vary. what is strange is the ranges in temperature as you get lower. why and how does it decrease and then increase and then decrease as you get lower?

why does earths visible weather only happen in the troposphere? is it due to moisture (electrical conductor), electron density and other factors?

troposphere structure and chemicals

does the tropopause, where the jet streams are, show it is part of an energy/electrical circuit?

the lower weather and energy seems to go upwards to this point, through the clouds and lightning.

the upper weather and lightning with blue jets etc seem to go up and down to the tropopause also

what are the odds in a gravity universe that the jet stream, a natural energy current or one of the earths natural wires is found where all the visible energy is concentrated? what are the odds for it in an electric universe with an XEarth?

: earths atmosphere layers and electrical/lightning layers
: electrobleme May 26, 2010, 20:38:33
earths atmosphere layers and electrical/lightning layers

(http://www.everythingselectric.com/images/xearth/earths-atmosphere-layers-electrical-circuit-small.jpg) (http://www.everythingselectric.com/images/xearth/earths-atmosphere-layers-electrical-circuit.jpg)
earths atmosphere layers and electrical/lightning layers

what reason is there in a gravity universe for the lightning/electrical activity to exist let alone be in layers and go downwards and upwards?

these are circuits in the earths electric weather circuit and XEarth
: smooth earth circulation = circuit
: electrobleme May 26, 2010, 21:03:10

smooth earth circulation = circuit

smooth earth circulation diagram = XEarth circuit

the above diagram is of a smooth earth circulation pattern (no land or sea interactions and circuits) showing the circuit that would be found on the earth.

the actual known circulation patterns of the earth are more complicated circuits but they all show circuitry that you would expect in an electric universe

(http://www.xearththeory.com/images/planetselectricalcircuits/temperate-atmospheric-zones-precipitaion-subtropicalhigh-earth-coil-natural-windings-wires-banner.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=1811) (http://www.xearththeory.com/images/planetselectricalcircuits/wind-belts-jet-streams-horse-latitudes-trade-doldrums-animation-banner.gif) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=1816)
earths atmospheric zones

the above images are from an article about the earths natural circuits and is the earth an electromagnetic coil? (http://www.xearththeory.com/introdis_earth_electromagnetic_coil_transformers_step_up_down.html)

: cloud layers and similar types
: electrobleme May 28, 2010, 07:01:02

you will find clouds in layers at different altitudes and also variations of the same types of clouds but at different altitudes. in an electric universe clouds are not formed by condensation of hot/cold air as such but a product of an EU event happening.

if clouds are electric this may explain why they dont appear to change shape when the sun sets and it in theory gets a little colder

(http://www.xearththeory.com/images/weather-fronts-clouds/altitudes-of-cloud-layers-types-diagram.jpg) (http://www.xearththeory.com/images/weather-fronts-clouds/altitudes-of-cloud-layers-types.jpg)
different cloud types and layers in the earths atmopshere

if clouds are part of the electric universe this may explain why you get variations of the same cloud type at different altitude layers.

Noctilucent Clouds near space photograph from airplane

if clouds are part of the electric universe and the XEarth then this may help to explain noctilucent clouds. why "clouds" can form in near space. it is not because its hot/cold/condensation its because clouds are an electrical byproduct. they are a result not a cause. they show what is happening or happened not what the happening is about. clouds show that there is an electric universe event happening right there.

: global electric circuit weather
: electrobleme June 08, 2010, 23:34:02

(http://www.xearththeory.com/images/weather-fronts-clouds/global-electric-circuit-weather-image.jpg) (http://www.xearththeory.com/images/weather-fronts-clouds/global-electric-circuit-weather.jpg)
global electric circuit and earths weather

this image is from this great site http://www.ems.psu.edu/~lno/Meteo437/Figures437.html