SAFIRE project – Electric Sun investigated

safire project electric sun theory hypothesis universe thunderboltsThe Electric Sun hypothesis is being investigated by a team of scientists and researchers. Basing their experiments on ideas of those involved with the Thunderbolts Electric Universe theory and other EU theory proponents (Wallace Thornhill, Dr Donald E Scott etc).

SAFIRE project (Stellar Atmospheric Function In Regulation Experiment) and SAFIRE team links, videos and articles will be listed below as they appear.

SAFIRE Project ‘mission statements’

The SAFIRE team does not hold to any one theory or another.
We do no have a horse in this race, we do not belong to the EU community.
We are testing the Electric Sun hypothesis to shake it out and see if it is false, or, if the test supports the theory.
SAFIRE is pure science. what is called basic research.

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SAFIRE Project: Double layers surrounding anode

The summary of the aims of the SAFIRE project are to:

The SAFIRE Project is an experimental investigation of electric discharge behavior of an anode (positively charged electrode) in a vacuum chamber, with special attention to correlations between such discharge behavior and “anomalous” features of the Sun.

It seems that the SAFIRE project will actually be testing to see if one of the Anode Sun model (sun is a positively charged body in a generally negatively charged environment) and the Cathode Sun model is more correct, or, if both are wrong then it is either a different electric sun model or the sun is not electric and perhaps it is not an Electric Universe.

SAFIRE Project – why, what and how?

electric suns stars electromagnetic plasma SAFIRE ProjectWhat is the history of the SAFIRE Project? How, why and what started the process for the experiments?

In this video (notes below) Montgomery Childs explains how he became interested in testing the Electric Sun Model after coming across theoretical issues of the Sun based on a gravity model – for example the lack of gamma rays from a nuclear Sun.

The SAFIRE Project experiments are based on mainly based on these Electric Universe hypothesis:

  • The Sun is a positively charged body in a negatively charged environment
  • Charged plasma effecting matter of a different electrical potential

Monty carried out statistical analysis of the Electric Universe theory for Electric Stars, to see if it was possible. The Electric Universe Model is not yet mathematically defined and the physics are not sorted.

The initial result was that a simple EU process could power the billions of stars in the universe.

Montgomery then also researched the history of EU experimentation (Kristian Birkeland, Irving Langmuir etc)to help work out the feasibility of possible experiments to test the hypothesis. It was concluded that proper science experiments could test the Electric Universe theories.

SAFIRE Project team

SAFIRE project members include Montgomery Childs, Dr Michael Clarage, Dr Paul E Anderson, Jan Onderco and Dr Lowell Morgan.

Monty Childs is the author of three college engineering text books and holds eight international technical patents. He was lead design engineer of the Canadian National Research Council for Rocket Design to measure for Oxygen in the upper atmosphere.
Monty Childs – SAFIRE Project Leader | Hossein Turner

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Dr. Michael Clarage received his PhD in physics from Brandeis University in 1992, studying the biological and statistical behavior of proteins. Prior to that, he spent several years studying binary pulsars at the Arecibo radio telescope. He has given traveling lectures in the areas of fractional calculus, fractals, and chaotic systems as well as presented public talks on such topics as relativity and dimensions, transformation in supernova and metamorphosis in biology. Dr. Clarage is currently a scientist with the SAFIRE Project.
Dr Michael Clarage | The International Science Foundation

SAFIRE latest news

Below is the latest SAFIRE Project update video from Monty Childs.

The previous video SAFIRE Project Update EU2015 (22 minutes), reported on Phase 1 and some of the amazing plasma results and images. If you want to see short introduction videos about the SAFIRE Project then they are further down the page.

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Phase 1: Proof of Concept – “was to determine if we could measure inside a hostile plasma environment and gather data. And now phase 2 is to apply what we have learned.”

The SAFIRE team have released the research paper Study of striations in a spherically symmetric Hydrogen discharge (free PDF).

There are a few articles on this site investigating the SAFIRE teams videos:
Sun ‘spots’?
Petroglyphs – sun ‘shine’, flowers or plasma?
Plasmaglyphs

Electric Sun and the SAFIRE project

Below is the very short trailer for the SAFIRE project documentary video on youtube.

SAFIRE — The Documentary trailer (1:57)

Trailer text

In an Electric Universe the heavens are not an empty vacuum.

Vast electrical currents stream across interstellar and intergalactic space. They draw matter into a spiral vortex to form a spiral galaxy. The galaxy is lit by the stars strung along the current streams – electric stars.

In an Electric Universe the Sun is a positively charged body in a negatively charged galactic environment. If such is truly the case then these features of the Sun are no longer riddles or anomalies. They are exactly as to what is to be expected.

But the Electric Sun hypothesis has the same problem as the Thermonuclear hypothesis, we have never been able to test either in a laboratory. Until now …

For more Electric Sun theory videos and articles based on the SAFIRE team and project click here.

Nuclear Sun mysteries

Some of our nuclear Suns puzzles and mysteries are listed below. Are they explained and expected by an Electric Sun and the Electric Universe theory?

A list of Electric Sun articles on this site.

1) rapid acceleration of the solar wind away from the surface, up to millions of miles per hour; from an electrical vantage point such acceleration is the best indication of electric field strength;

2) more intense outbursts (coronal mass ejections) achieving speeds up to one quarter the speed of light—velocities plausibly achieved only in an electric field;

3) continued acceleration of the solar wind out past the inner planets, implying an extensive electric field acting on the particles long after they have departed the Sun;

4) a temperature minimum close to the Sun’s surface (approx. 5,000K, rising spectacularly through the chromosphere and into the corona, with outer corona temperatures up to 20 million degrees. (This, too, suggests an interfacial region—a plasma “double layer”—between the Sun and its extended plasma atmosphere);

5) “open” magnetic field lines, a violation of standard electromagnetic equations. This enigma disappears if the lines actually extend into the larger galactic domain as pathways of galactic currents flowing into the heliosphere. In such an arrangement, the lines close as required, but not within the heliosphere;

6) polar jets, a classical feature of electric discharge in plasma.

7) Equatorial torus, a feature well documented in Kristian Birkeland’s experiments with electrical bombardment of a magnetized sphere;

8) super-rotation of the equatorial atmosphere—35 rotations for every 26 rotations of the circumpolar atmosphere—a contradiction of standard atmospherics, but a predictable effect if the atmosphere is being driven by external, rotating cylindrical currents along the Sun’s axis, pinching down (plasma z-pinch) to meet the solar surface;

9) recent findings that the convection required to sustain the Sun’s magnetic field is not occurring. The full significance of this finding has yet to be studied.

SAFIRE Project links:

International Science Foundation (ISF)
The Safire Project – Testing the Electric Sun (article on thunderbolts.info)
Safire Project site under construction – film (movie) to come?
SAFIRE Project discussion on the Thunderbolts.info forum

  • Chuckles

    Hmmm… So has the SAFIRE project actually published any findings or data so far? Any reports? Is there ANY sign that the project even exists outside of a few dubious hints from EU webpages and youtube videos?

    • Thanks Chuckles, you make some very good points.

      There was a big announcement about the start of the SAFIRE project and then not much else for ages.

      Even (what i think is) the project website http://safireproject.com/index.html is still under construction and makes you doubt if it is the official site and if this project might be some garage science project.

      Which has been really frustrating for those keen to see the results. Results that will either supply evidence for this part of the EU theory or to show that the (positive) Electric Sun model is pseudoscience and would also seem to disprove the ‘Thunderbolts EU theory version’.

      As you say there is not much information or mentions about SAFIRE apart from on Electric Universe theory sites. I always struggle with facts or quotes that can only be found on sites with a vested interest on that topic. So anyone trying to research the authenticity of SAFIRE and its results will struggle.

      I had to research some of its team members and you can find a few links in the article above. Montgomery Childs is the best person to start with https://www.linkedin.com/in/montgomery-childs-484a9219

      But the good news is that the first phase of the experiments has been completed and things are now starting to be slowly released. Research papers and the series of experiments are works in progress.

      The SAFIRE team have released this paper ‘SAFIRE Project: Study of striations in a spherically symmetric Hydrogen discharge’ which you can view here http://kinema.com/wp-content/uploads/MorganChilds-PRE-013015.pdf

      Latest updates will be mentioned during the EU 2016 conference https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2015/12/30/eu2016-speakers/ which you can also stream live if you can not attend.

      • I’ve Had Enough

        Two million dollars and that’s the best placeholder website they can come up with!

        • Nathan

          There are video reports in the EU YouTube channel. From the initial skepticism of the investigators team, the last reports show a perceptible increasing enthusiasm. The project grows and they are now constructing the more advanced and larger plasma chamber ever made. The few results published are very promising and the implications are huge, especially to the future technology. Remembering that this is a private self-funding project with a very modest budget.

          • I’ve Had Enough

            I’d like to see how it turns out, sorry for my sarcastic reply. I always keep an open mind, thank you for the reply Nathan

  • You make a good point as there was a big announcement about the start of the project and then not much else. Which has been really frustrating for those keen to see the results.

    Results that will either supply evidence for this part of the EU theory or to show that the Electric Sun model is pseudoscience and would seem to disprove the ‘Thunderbolts EU theory version’.

    As you say there is not much else about the SAFIRE Project apart from on EU sites. I always struggle with facts or quotes that can only be found on sites with a vested interest on that topic. So anyone trying to research the authenticity of SAFIRE and its results will struggle. I had to research some of its team members and you can find a few links in the article above. Montgomery Childs is the best person to start with https://www.linkedin.com/in/montgomery-childs-484a9219

    Research papers and the series of experiments are works in progress. But the good news is that the first phase of the experiments has been completed and things are now starting to be slowly released.

    The SAFIRE team have released this paper ‘SAFIRE Project: Study of striations in a spherically symmetric Hydrogen discharge’ which you can view here http://kinema.com/wp-content/uploads/MorganChilds-PRE-013015.pdf

    Latest updates will be mentioned during the EU 2016 conference https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2015/12/30/eu2016-speakers/ which you can also stream live if you can not attend.

  • Kathleen Sisco

    Well, the EU 2017 conference opens next week so we’ll see what has happened, if anything.
    What I think is that Valentina Zharkova etal theory of a DOUBLE MAGNETIC FIELD IN SOL is the actual result of a plasma double layer.
    I am highly doubtful that any evidence of the production of fusion can be described.
    I believe that to be a result of a unique set of occurrences requiring far higher energy that exists to be exploited.