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egyptian gods and mythology
« on: July 31, 2010, 02:35:15 »


egyptian gods and mythology



egypts blue god Amun - hidden, self created - the aurora and earths magnetotail?


egyptian gods and mythology appears to be a very puzzling mixture of the obvious mixed with the totally bizaare and illogical. when viewed from a modern mind/society. the problem with ancient history is that we interpret what we find and try to fit it into our own mindset/ideas. this does not normally work because not only was society and the people different back then, the actual physical nature of the world and our solar system was very different.

all ancient cultures and civilisations describe a world very different than today. can they all be wrong or made up? why would all cultures describe similar events and strange worlds unless that was actually what the earth and our solar system was like back then.



squatter man image seen around the world


folklore around the world has "tales" of the planets, that they viewed as gods, warring with each other and throwing thunderbolts at the other gods (planets) and earth. around the world similar creation and flood myths exist. either they were all in contact with each other or they all witnessed the same events in the skies and suffered the same earthly catastrophes and disasters.

today when you look at the skies you can hardly make out the planets, they are only just larger and brighter than the stars in the skies. why would the ancient cultures think of them as gods? why would they fear the planet gods to bring doom and catastrophe to the earth? why and how could the planet gods throw thunderbolts at each other?



polar conjuction and the mother goddess (great star)


unless the ancient solar system was different to our solar system? it was a place of chaos and interplanetary events but eventually calmed down. the planet gods and the fear/religion/memory of them dying out as the solar system calmed down into the present stable/balanced system.

but as shown by the many catastrophes that have struck the earth the balance will one day change and the planet gods will once again strive across the skies - hurling their thunderbolts and filling the skies with signs and wonders

how does this help explain the egyptian gods and mythology? if the planets were gods in the past then were the egyptian gods and mythology based on events in the skies?




the inspiration for these ideas and posts are a combination of people from Electric Universe and Plasma Mythology people. they include David Talbott, Gary Gillgan, Rens van der Sluijs and others. as with all theories and ideas based on history not every one agrees with each other and some of the ideas are very different to the others.




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Amun - the blue egyptian god - hidden then revealed and self created


egypts blue god Amun - hidden, self created - the aurora and earths magnetotail?


the egyptian god Amun (Amon, Amen,Amoun) is one of the strangest and most puzzling of the egyptian gods. firstly his colour is shown as blue with a normally multicoloured plumed crown. although that is strange the mythology around Amun is not understood by modern man.

why is Amun the hidden god? why was he self created? why did he suddenly became Amun-Re?

if Amun was the earths aurora but in a world where there was more natural energy flowing through the solar system then this would explain his colours and also the fact that he was hidden and was self created.

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However, while hidden, the addition to his name of "Re" revealed the god to humanity. Re was the common egyptian term for the Sun, thus making him visiible. Hence,, Amun-Re combined within himself the two opposites of the divinity, the hidden and the revealed. As Amun, he was secret, hidden, and mysterious, but as Re,, he was visible and revealed.
Amun-Re | touregypt.net

The God King Scenario suggests instead that ...

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Amun's epithets are completely consistent with an aurora filled sky.

Mysterious of form
Who raised high the sky
The king of the south and of the north
Prince of rays and beams of light
The flame which sendeth forth rays of light with mighty splendour
Living flame who came forth from Nun
King of heaven, ruler of the two lands
Who makes light/gives free passage
Secret of manifestations and sparkling of shape
Marvellous god rich in forms
Light was his coming into existence on the first occasion
Amun, the Egyptian "king of the gods" was the Aurora | gks.uk.com


more on Amun and Amun-Re according to Gary Gilligans "God King Scenario"


double plume crown


Amun (Amon, Amoun, Amen) egypt god with double plume crown

Amun and other gods/goddesses/pharaohs/kings of egypt were shown with a double plumed crown. was Amuns double plume a much more energesied earths magnetotail in the past? especially if solar system catastrophe had created and increased the amount of dust surrounding the earth and floating about.

if you think of earths magnetotail flowing behind the earth and slightly upwards during the night then you may also get the 2 towers or pillars sometimes mentioned. if it was electrically energised then it may have glowed in the dark or the dust flowing in it may have ionised slightly similar to a comets tail



egyptian crowns with double plumes?


with the idea that Amun was the aurora and his crown the earths magnetotail, if you read modern ideas on him and the total confusion of the worship of him and his form then it may start to make more sense. After all gods were not just planets but everything on earth or near earth could be a god.

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Amun represented the essential and hidden, whilst in Ra he represented revealed divinity ... Amun was self created, without mother and father, and during the New Kingdom he became the greatest expression of transcendental deity in Egyptian theology. He was not considered to be immanent within creation nor was creation seen as as an extension of himself. Amun-Re, likewise with the Hebrew creator deity, did not physically engender the universe

... Initially, a religious concept that was identified as the air in the Ancient Egyptian myths of creation included Amunet and Amun as dual aspects. These religious beliefs varied by region. In Thebes, Amun came to be associated with the breath of life, one of the deities who created part of the ba.

... Amun became depicted in human form, seated on a throne, wearing on his head a plain, deep circlet from which rise two straight parallel plumes. The plumes may have been symbolic of the tail feathers of a bird, a reference to his earlier status as a wind deity.

The worship surrounding Amun, and later, Amun-Re represented one of ancient Egypt's most complex theologies. In his most mature form, Amun-Re became a hidden, secret god. In fact, his name (Imn), or at lest the name by which the ancient Egyptians called him, means "the hidden one" or "the secret one" ... and according to mythology, both his name and physical appearance were unknown, thus indicating his unknowable essence.
Amun | crystalinks.com




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Ra - the egyptian sun god? rose up in the west and gave off emerald light?


Ra (Re) egyptian god with sun disc or was it? why did the egyptians show their sun as red?


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A Case for Mistaken Identity

Ask anyone who has even a modest knowledge of mythology to name the Egyptian sun god and they will probably point to Ra. And why not? Is that not what we have been taught by historians and archeologists?

James Frazer spoke plainly when he echoed this dictum: "That Ra was both the physical sun and the sun-god is of course undisputed."

And yet, if one were to conduct an in-depth study of this Egyptian "physical Sun" and "sun-god" one comes to the realization that, except for the fact that Ra shone brightly in the sky, the characteristics and even motions attributed to this entity do not fit the role of the Sun.

For example, Ra was often lauded as "Lord of the Circles" and as "he who entereth [or liveth] in the circle." He was described as "the sender forth of light into his circle" and as the "Governor of [his] circle."

What is the Circle that the hymns allude to? Egyptologists will immediately say that the Circle of which the hymns speak was the Egyptian Duat (or Tuat), a word that means "the Underworld." That may be so, but Egyptologists since the time of Wallis Budge have conceded that the Duat was away beyond Earth and in the sky. The Duat as a ring surrounding a celestial object comes from the hieroglyphic determinative of the name "Duat" itself, depicted in the texts as a star surrounded by a band or circle. It is thus obvious that whatever Ra signified it was a celestial body that resided within a circle or band or ring.

Does the Sun send forth its rays into a circle? Does it reside in a ring?

Under certain conditions, a ring known as a parhelion (sundog), formed through atmospheric refraction, surrounds the Sun. But not only is this apparition too rare for Ra to have earned the title of "Governor of his circle" and/or "Lord of the Circles" it is also a phenomenon that is restricted to northern regions and hardly, if ever, seen at the latitude of Egypt.

The Egyptians themselves attributed Ra to the god Atum and in fact, this deity is often referred to in Egyptian documents as Atum-Ra. This god bore a specific and strange characteristic - Atum was honored as a sun of night.

Students of Egyptian mythology have long grappled with the exact meaning that lies hidden beneath this strange characteristic of Atum. The best that Wallis Budge could offer by way of an explanation was that Atum was the Sun after it had set. By this he meant to imply that the Egyptians worshipped the Sun even when it was absent from the sky. Sun worship at night, however, makes for an incongruous institution.

As seen in the image at the top of the page, the god Ra is often surmounted with a red or golden disc that is not inappropriate if the Sun is truly being represented. In the liturgies dedicated to him, however, Ra is described as having shed a green, rather than a golden, light: "Thou hast come with thy splendours," states a hymn to Ra, "and thou hast made heaven and earth bright with thy rays of pure emerald light."

In another hymn we read: "O Ra...thou dost rise in the horizon of heaven and sheddest upon the world beams of emerald light." Not only did this celestial object shed a green or emerald light, it was green. "Hail Green One" was how the Egyptians lauded Ra.

Consider further the motion of the celestial object called Ra. In a statement found in one of the Coffin Texts, the deity is addressed with these words: "You shall go up upon the great West side of the sky and go down upon the great East side of the earth." Is not this contrary to what the present Sun does? Does the Sun today "go up" in the west? Does it "go down" in the east? Nor is this particular Coffin Text the only one in which the motion of Ra is in reverse to that of the present Sun.

More than that, when sailing in his boat, Ra is said to move down at dawn and "upstream" at night, which is again contrary to what we see the Sun doing in our sky at present.

One does not have to be an astronomer to realize that a celestial body described as being green, shedding a green light, shining at night, encircled in a ring or series of rings, "going up" in the west at night and "going down in the east" at dawn cannot have been the Sun. Mythologists, who usually gloss over these characteristics when they do not ignore them altogether, owe us an apology for having presented Ra as the Sun and Sun-god of ancient Egypt.

Other attributes of the Egyptian Ra also contradict identification with our present Sun, but the above should suffice to make the point. The question, of course, is: If not the Sun, what could the celestial object that the ancient Egyptians venerated as Ra have been?

Contributed by Dwardu Cardona, author of "God Star"
A Case for Mistaken Identity | thunderbolts.info/tpod

for links in the article visit the original at Thunderbolts Picture Of The Day (TPOD)



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Zenodotus updates Homer Epics and lore
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2012, 09:57:58 »
Zenodotus updates Homer Epics and lore

Looking at the ancient lore through Electromagnetic eyes .. what did/does that dagger symbols mean?



could they be different parts of the same event? showing phenomenon in the earths skies, showing events in our solar system?


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The Dagger symbols and the Cross symbols
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2012, 10:19:11 »
The Dagger symbols and the Cross symbols

If you go by standard wiki dating and history then - even if you believe the science dating is wrong - you can use it as a sort of timeline.


Dagger symbols and Cross symbols

Wiki History of the Dagger symbols


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The dagger symbol originated from a variant of the obelus (plural: obeli), originally depicted by a plain line (-) or a line with one or two dots (÷). It represented an iron roasting spit, a dart, or the sharp end of a javelin,[3] symbolizing the skewering or cutting out of dubious matter.
Three variants of obelus glyphs.

The dagger symbol originated from a variant of the obelus (plural: obeli), originally depicted by a plain line (-) or a line with one or two dots (÷). It represented an iron roasting spit, a dart, or the sharp end of a javelin, symbolizing the skewering or cutting out of dubious matter.

The obelus is believed to have been invented by the Homeric scholar Zenodotus as one of a system of editorial symbols. They were used to mark questionable or corrupt words or passages in manuscripts of the Homeric epics. The system was further refined by his student Aristophanes of Byzantium, who first introduced the asterisk and used a symbol resembling a for an obelus; and finally by Aristophanes' student, in turn, Arstarchus, from whom they earned the name of 'Aristarchian symbols'.
Dagger typography | wiki

But according to the wiki history blurb before the obeli came first but is sort of less well known. To my maths eye it looks like the division symbol and the percentage symbol. So powerful was its effect on human kind we have adapted it to carry on its memory


Obelus symbol - Zenodotus and Homer Epics correction or update?




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Zenodotus updated Homer Epics?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2012, 10:31:27 »
Zenodotus updated Homer Epics?

What was Zenodotus correcting? Punctuation? or was he drawing what he thought had actually happened? With new information from the conquered land, that had now shown its ancient and different view point?

Zenodotus does not seem to be a literary critic of Homers Epics but perhaps he did critic them by drawing and update them visually.

or was he learning?

or was this like the Rosetta Stone? he was translating words or images into Egyptian images?


Daggers symbols and Obelus symbols


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Zenodotus  was a Greek grammarian, literary critic, and Homeric scholar. A native of Ephesus and a pupil of Philitas of Cos, he was the first librarian of the Library of Alexandria. He lived during the reigns of the first two Ptolemies, and was at the height of his reputation about 280 BC.

Zenodotus was the first superintendent of the Library of Alexandria and the first critical editor of Homer. His colleagues in the librarianship were Alexander of Aetolia and Lycophron of Chalcis, to whom were allotted the tragic and comic writers respectively, Homer and other epic poets being assigned to Zenodotus.

Although he has been reproached with arbitrariness and an insufficient knowledge of Greek, his recension undoubtedly laid a sound foundation for future criticism. Having collated the different manuscripts in the library, he expunged or obelized doubtful verses, transposed or altered lines, and introduced new readings. It is probable that he was responsible for the division of the Homeric poems into twenty-four books each (using capital Greek letters for the Iliad, and lower-case for the Odyssey), and possibly was the author of the calculation of the days of the Iliad in the Tabula Iliaca.

He does not appear to have written any regular commentary on Homer, but his Homeric ("lists of unusual words, glosses") probably formed the source of the explanations of Homer attributed by the grammarians to Zenodotus. He also lectured upon Hesiod, Anacreon and Pindar, if he did not publish editions of them. He is further called an epic poet by the Suda, and three epigrams in the Greek Anthology are assigned to him.

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Zenodotus in or after Egypt translates Homers Epics
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 10:38:41 »
Zenodotus in or after Egypt translates Homers Epics

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In 332 BC, Alexander the Great conquered Egypt with little resistance from the Persians and was welcomed by the Egyptians as a deliverer. The administration established by Alexander's successors, the Ptolemies, was based on an Egyptian model and based in the new capital city of Alexandria. The city showcased the power and prestige of Greek rule, and became a seat of learning and culture, centered at the famous Library of Alexandria.[68]
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