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In The Beginning...
« on: June 07, 2010, 09:49:10 »
I'm not 99% sure of the events that took place before my starting point so I can only speculate on those events. However, all events that follow are evident everywhere on Earth and I will try to stay as close to scientific as possible. Sorry for any assumptions I may make but they are necessary.

I'm not sure about Saturian cosmology so I'm going to place the Earth around the Sun as we know it. I'm going to assume the Earth was orbiting at some given radius probably somewhere farther from the Sun then it is today. Earth had no real “charge” or magnetic-field (for reasons I will explain in a moment) like it does now, so this would perhaps place it farther away from the source, but it is unimportant for this moment.

According to ancient Greek mythology, in the beginning of creation there was the Sun, another very large luminous planet and the Earth (Gia). This is mirrored in the Bible and many Native creation stories, etc. So let us assume that this was the truth and setup our solar system with these three bodies. The Sun and Earth with this greater planet called Uranus. Uranus was probably very different then we know it today but none the less it is a perfect setup for this situation.



Given what we know about the ocean floor spreading patterns, the Earth was smaller in the past then it is now. Given our Earths current average diameter of 12,742 km, when you subdue all the ocean floor back into the Earth we get an average diameter of 6386 km give or take 100 km. Since I claimed that Earth had no mountains before the lightning-bolt, the surface was very close to being evenly smooth or void and without form. This smaller ball was probably composed of layers. The core being made up of solid Iron or Silicon based alloy or even a combination of the two. I chose these two because of the great abundance of these elements in the Universe however Carbon and Magnesium may also have been present in the primordial core. I will explain why I assume Iron was mostly present later.

Now I will try to demonstrate the layers of the Earth before the lightning discharge event.

Our current crust layer crust layer:

0 – 35km thick ring of material in a 2-D circle with a total radius of the Earth's (6371 km) would have an area of,

r1=6371
r2=6371-35
area1=(pi)r1^2,
area2=(pi)r2^2,
area1 – area2 = area3,

In this example we have an estimated crust area of 1,396,499.3 km^2,

r1=6371 km
r2=6336 km
area1=127,451,472.74 km^2,
area2=126,054,973.44 km^2,
area1 – area2 = 1,396,499.3 km^2.

When we return to our starting size, this crust would be somewhere near 70.42 km in thickness on average,

Maximum radius = 3193 km
Given area of our crust material = 1,396,499.3 km^2

r1=3193 km,
area1 = (pi)r1^2,
area1 = 32,013,081.86 km^2,
area2 = 1,396,499.3 km^2,
area1 – area2 = area3 = 30,616,582.56 km^2,
r2 = sqrt(pi / area3) = 3122.58 km,
r3 = r1 – r2 = 70.42 km.

Then another layer of material follows being the mantle, having an estimated thickness of 1922.58 km and contained mostly Silicon or Magnesium but I'm not sure to be honest so its anyone's best guess based on the basic elements that make up the Earth that occur naturally in nature.

The thickness of the mantle material is based on our guess that the current core is 1200 km thick. The past core may have been larger but that is also an assumption and the difference wouldn't be that great maybe 5%.

Now on top of all that was our ocean water. It completely covered the surface of the Earth with an average depth of 7.6 km. By doing the same kind of math as above we arrive at this value for the average depth of the water over the surface, given our current average depth of 3.79 km. This water may or may not have been saline, but I don't feel it was that is important at the time. This thick layer of ocean would have probably prevented any charge from accumulating on the inside or in the core so there probably wasn't a strong magnetic field like today. There probably was no atmosphere except hydrogen or helium and probably no ionosphere like there is today. All of these may have been present but they would have been very weak. The surface of this ocean may have been frozen.

So for a quick review of the layers: Iron core (1200 km thick), Mantle material (1922.58 km thick), Mud layer (70.42 km thick), and finally our ocean (7.6 km thick).

So now we have the solar system setup and our pre-Earth model. All we need now is a large enough discharge to do what I claim. The initiator of such an event would be the great-planet Uranus and the Sun. Uranus and the Sun would act like a giant capacitor and eventually discharge. Earth may or may not have been the cause of the breakdown but none the less, it was involved. A huge plasma discharge surged through the Earth with a magnitude of millions of times greater then our common lightning-bolt. This bolt possibly possessed billions of degrees K which is more then enough energy for transmutation.



The surge entered above India and then split into three directions. One tendril traveled west through Europe and created the mountains and the Sea formations there, before cutting around Africa and making its way down to the south tip. A second tendril went north-east through China and along the south-east of Russia before crossing over to Alaska. From there it made its way down through the Rockies of Canada and the USA. This is where it met the third tendril in two fork-like formations.

The third tendril traveled down through Thailand and Malaysia, creating Indonesia. It traveled down and around Australia and into Antarctica before climbing up the east side of South-America, then through Mexico and finally meeting the second tendril in the USA in a fork-like manner. This would cause a blow-out or exit point for the plasma. This is why the mountains are nearly vertical here. This is also why Everest is the tallest mountain on Earth. There was such a surge of energy exiting the Earth in the USA that all this high energy would leave behind a huge variety of minerals in vein like structures. This is also why we find the largest super-volcanoes in this area, because of electrical blow-out.




Forgive the black areas on the pictures, all this land should be seamless together but I could not get a better picture.

The plasma would have penetrated through the ocean and into the core where it would have saturated the mantle material with fractal electrical discharges radiating outward from the core. The core would have been activated with the return strokes, creating an AC effect, giving rise to the magnetic field. This would magnetize almost everything to some degree giving everything a charge.

A large amount of the ocean would have been evaporated, creating our atmosphere of various Ozone and Oxygen, Hydrogen and Nitrogen; everything from Oxygen to Helium through electrical transmutation.

The inside of Earth would have been super heated and charged into all kinds of elements instantly. Billions of degrees is enough energy to fuse anything together. Materials electrically transmute with the same principles as arc-welding. Lightning fuses elements together. That is why you see light in the first place. Lightning is the greatest fusion reactor in nature. Scientists should be taking notes. All lava has Uranium 238 in it. This couldn't be possible without electrical transmutation. Or you could believe that some distant super-nova put it here. All this energy would cause the Earth to expand very rapidly as apposed to slowly. The size of Earth would have expanded rapidly before the discharge stopped and then it's expansion would have slowed as it cooled.

The ridge system is a continuous system of ridges found under the ocean that circumnavigate the globe. To say that the Atlantic ridge is independent would be naïve. This ridge system is the remnant path of the initial discharge that cut the Earth into seven continents. The heat from the inside wants to escape and pushes up the super heated material (magma) through these cracks and causes the expansion of the Earth in all directions.

The mountains and ridges are the most visible alterations but there are others. These so-called ancient river beds found under the Sahara desert and the plains of Alberta and the eastern United States. As a matter of fact, all river beds and systems were initially created in this discharge when hundreds of smaller tendrils spread themselves across the surface of the continents. And moved in a snake like fashion carving hundreds upon hundreds of various ancient looking river bed paths. Then modern rivers flow along the most efficient path. Even all the lakes where glaciers apparently deposited across Canada were created by a long tendril dipping in and out of the Earth. The paths of glaciers were already carved out in the mountains by thick lightning tendrils that melted the valley into place where ice later filled. Now science believes that the glaciers are responsible for this formation. Fresh water may also be created by lightning striking rock. It seems that all the fresh water lakes are exactly along major discharge paths. There are even storied in the bible that say water came from inside the stone. This may be laughable to think about but it may be true. What an amazing source of pure water if this is true.  

I have calculated the expansion rate of the Earth to be 68 mm a year with an error of 2 mm. Amazingly Everest is growing at a rate of 6.1 cm a year. This is close to my estimates.



Well, I could write about this all night but I have to stop somewhere. So tell me what you think about that? Also I would like to point out that this rate of expansion is only occurring on Earth and not on all planets as some may believe. Earth continues to grow today that is why Everest is growing. Eventually the Earth will pop like a balloon or a soap bubble when the mantle material is all used up, or the interior cools but having the presence of Uranium 238 in that material, the interior of the Earth will remain hot for a very long time.

Oh yes, life... all the material is present to create life and experiments in the lab have shown that with these materials and a spark RNA and amino acids can be produced. Also, I would like to point out that evolution occurs whenever a large discharge occurs on Earth. This global energy distribution changes all DNA/RNA patterns and we would see complete changes in species almost over night (geologically speaking).

It doesn't matter if the model of our solar system is incorrect to begin with. The important part of this hypothese is that a large discharge was responsible for all major land formations on Earth including rivers, lakes, mountains, ocean ridges, volcanoes, mineral veins, contental "roots", and even some meteor impact sites. This event could also be responsible for the magnetic field, atmosphere, rotation, expanssion, and the seeds for life. Why do all plants grow with lightning bolt patterns? in both negative and positive patterns? You wont find a plant in nature that doesn't exibit these structures. Plants are basically representations of red-sprites growing in extreme slow motion. Mammals are a different story... One im still trying to work out but it's really late for me.

Good night!

Peter
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The Beginning... of the earths great rivers
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2010, 21:21:54 »

lots to discuss! as we dont really know or will ever know what has happened you have to choose your starting scenario and then work your way through it. perhaps producing variations on it depending on what may have happened at different stages.

below is some stuff that we might be able to use to work out what happened in various parts of the earth. these are using what we can see on earth now so might help us to reverse engineer events.


as you say discharge points may produce a blow out point(s) but could they also produce a flat crater(s)  the 2 areas you mention where the discharge points occured have a couple of large flat areas, the San Joaquin Valley and Tarim Basin. are these both discharge points craters, blow out exist holes, EDM crater, mixture or something different?


San Joaquin Valley discharge crater or EDM crater?



San Joaquin Valley with location of yosemite crater - EDM or blow out ?


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The exit point of the discharge appears as a small crater on the surface of the acrylic. The discharge point is typically located at a surface defect, or where a point of external mechanical stress has weakened the dielectric. A defect concentrates the electric field, creating a small region where the breakdown process can begin. Although we inject a huge amount of negative charge into our specimens, electrical breakdown actually originates from points which are more electrically positive (versus the space charge layer), so our Captured Lightning® sculptures are actually "positive" Lichtenberg figures!  
How do we create our Captured Lightning sculptures? | Captured Lightning



tibetan plataeu and tarim basin from space


if you can work out and know which they are then you can work out further what happened to the earth as a whole and in each area. working out which is postive or negative etc. perhaps even working out or a real basic idea of what the conditions were like in each area


different lichtenberg figures depending on the density discharge
Figure 1. Densely Dendritic Discharges (higher charge density)
Figure 2. Dendritic Discharges (lower charge density)
Figure 3. Chaotic Discharges (prematurely discharged while being irradiated)



The mountains and ridges are the most visible alterations but there are others. These so-called ancient river beds found under the Sahara desert and the plains of Alberta and the eastern United States. As a matter of fact, all river beds and systems were initially created in this discharge when hundreds of smaller tendrils spread themselves across the surface of the continents. And moved in a snake like fashion carving hundreds upon hundreds of various ancient looking river bed paths. Then modern rivers flow along the most efficient path. Even all the lakes where glaciers apparently deposited across Canada were created by a long tendril dipping in and out of the Earth. The paths of glaciers were already carved out in the mountains by thick lightning tendrils that melted the valley into place where ice later filled. Now science believes that the glaciers are responsible for this formation. Fresh water may also be created by lightning striking rock. It seems that all the fresh water lakes are exactly along major discharge paths. There are even storied in the bible that say water came from inside the stone. This may be laughable to think about but it may be true. What an amazing source of pure water if this is true.

Peter



i didnt know about the ancient river beds in the usa, cheers for that. great stuff!

the video linked to below may start to explain the large rivers on earth. the idea that they were carve by the electric universe seems apparent but it was a "how" that is a puzzle. perhaps the large and great rivers on earth are the "return stroke" or discharge or the initial discharge path for that area? this video shows what i mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XwFF5idD_0&feature=player_embedded
perhaps all the lichtenberg type tributaries are the initial strike/discharge but then the greater river channel is carved afterwards?



lightning leader and return stroke - the creator and pathway for great rivers?



lichtenberg figure and the amazon river basin

does the lichtenberg figure discharge pattern that is the amazon river basin show that there was a discharge point


lichtenberg pattern and the amazon river basin



lightning return stroke path and the nile river?

was the straightish path of the nile river caused by a "lightning return stroke" type of discharge?



lightning return stroke and the river ganges? leading to/from the himalayas, the highest mountains on earth and the tarim basin



tibetan plateau and the main rivers in asia


do the earths great rivers show the discharge points of each continent to either the sea or what formed the oceans?

was the earth subject to more than one catastrophe event that changed and created our geology? are there other markers?






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Re: In The Beginning...
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2010, 22:26:50 »
I have not read your entire post but I would like to comment on one question,

can discharge make flat craters?

I would say yes and my explanation would be that there are two types of discharge, one negative and one positive. This much is true. One type of discharge pulls on the surface and the other type pushes on the surface. If you look at the "entry point" in Asia, you will find huge uplift creating the mountains. You will also find a blasted smooth desert, (the name eludes me at the moment, the eye-shaped one). These two formations are in my opinion the remains of two currents of negative and positive discharge that were spinning around like a yin-yang as the electrical potential decreased. This was basically formed by an extreme collapse of the Birkeland current.

Negative discharge would press on the ground and pulverize it while the positive would pull on the ground raising it up.

In addition:
Rivers, IMO, were carved when the entire sphere of Earth was evenly distributed with plasma and as the potential dropped the plasma sphere began to collapse in on itself. As the collapse continued, the Earth would be carved layer by layer as the temperature increased over time. The collapse would begin to show the typical lightning formation as the potential dropped faster and faster. The temperature increases faster and all the river beds were carved in one instant as lichtenberg patterns. Just imagine sucking all the free-space out of a sheet of paper instantly. You would be left with a lichtenberg pattern.

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 00:26:37 »

the thunderbolts from the gods zapping the ocean and creating our atmosphere is a great idea and would explain where it came from.

the earth having a metal core is not something that to me personally makes much sense. i thought the reason the earth had to have an iron core was because back in the day when the earth was considered an isolated body in space this was the only way we could have a magnetic field? now that the earth is not isolated and part of the EU there is no need for the iron core?

also, those Seismic wave that they put through the earth, could they also slow down through plasma or something liquid but that is not liquid metal? at the moment i think of the earth as some sort of geode with perhaps a plasma or liquid in the middle

but if we do have an iron core then your idea of our magnetic field being triggered by the same even is quality. does the magnetic field or core of the earth change after each catastrophe that has struck the earth or was it only really affected by the first initial one?


the expanding earth - have we only expanded once or have we expanding/shrunk a few times? the earth seems to have been involved in catastrophes a few times. would each time make the earth grow or shrink? is there anyway we can prove yes or no?


would the great "radiations" of life like the Cambrian radiation show that the earth has been struck a few times?




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In The Beginning... rivers flow above and below ground
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 15:44:28 »

just had a thought about the discharge going over the land, would this help to explain those rivers that part of them flows above ground then another part below ground? cant remember which ones do this but if i remember correctly there are a few of them

it would also explain our massive caves and some of the tunnel caves

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Re: In The Beginning...
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2010, 08:09:22 »
You are asking all the right questions. I too am wondering the same thing. Did Earth expand several times? Has it ever shrank? Has Earth been hit more then once?

I would say yes it has expanded several times probably related to smaller strikes, but initially I think it is completely possible that it expanded all at once to its present size. The strikes that follow in history would be no where near the same potential difference.. mainly because the large "Uranus" planet would have then broken into smaller planets making the potentials a lot smaller. The only reason Earth would expand would be because of one of these strikes. The same goes for all planets. They don't "grow" like plants or people do (constantly) but expand only while a discharge is occurring. Mars has only expanded during it's deadly strike that carved the canyon. Mars did not receive enough energy to create continents like on Earth so is cannot expand like Earth does. Earth actually "bleeds" IMO. I think that Earth will eventually "pop" so to speak, like a soap bubble.

You are right to think that the center of the Earth is empty for reasons that even modern physics proves. Gravity is like a static charge effect. When you charge a conducting sphere you will always polarize the surface with negative or positive charge. When you do that, the inner surface also becomes charged but with the opposite polarity. This was proved by Newton and he went to a great length to show that gravity also works in the same way. Gravity does not go all the way to the center. It will only go so far into the surface before an opposite pushing gravity takes over and you cannot dig any farther without the Earth collecting at this barrier. This barrier is about half-way through the mass. So we have one force pushing inward and an opposite and equal force pushing outward and these two forces meet at a spherical boundry where Earth is being compacted. As the Earth grows (or gravity grows, or magnetism grows, what ever you believe is the cause) the boundary expands in proportion. So technically nothing can exist at the center of the Earth as far as "Ground" and mass is concerned so there may be no core at all. Plasma/Electrical/Magnetic phenomenon can exist there, so it is safe to assume that some kind of ongoing discharge is occurring to generate/induce/maintain our magnetic field.

It could be that the Earth, being a conductor, generates its own magnetic field simply by traveling through charged/magnetized space. The Earth would then induce these charges and the result would be a magnetic field. If you want to see this in effect, just place an iron sphere on the end of a string and spin it around in a magnetic field and measure the output! Or you can setup the experiment with a stationary sphere at a given radius from the center of a spinning magnet (must be a specific RPM). Then you can measure the electrical output as well as the magnetic output using a voltmeter and a magnetic probe. Then you will see that the energy source of the universe is magnetic.

Rivers, Underground Rivers, Caves, Mineral veins, Deserts, Flipping magnetic fields, Plant structures, almost 100% of the geological features on Earth were crafted by lightning patterns and heat and almost instantly. A normal strike can generate 30,000 degrees Kelvin!! That is more then enough heat to BOIL any element on the chart. There is so much energy produced that we see nuclear fusion occurring with every flash. Atoms being smashed and fused together with incredible force! Amazing stuff!