The Electric Universe Bible

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The Higher Order of consciousness prevents consumption
Several times the Bible mention that clothes and sandal don't consumed during the time in the desert.
You can imagine that eternal life has a straight relation to the "incorruptible" spirit that a human should acquire.
The spirit of God is a consuming fire, but only for the "corruptible" things, not to the things that are "incorruptible", like the truth.
Therefore we die, because of the fact that we fall into sin (as humanity) and the sin is like a big resistor, that if flooded by the spirit of God would simply burn. To prevent this, we die before this happen (maximum of 120 years as told to Noah after the diluvian) and we get only a small amount of God's life force. But through prayer we can ask for the spirit of God, bit by bit, and this transforms our personality gradually and "we become in tune with this great power" (Nikola Tesla).

as you mention in the Akashic Records thread lying is similar to "sin" and increases resistance to the flow or your connection to the EU/Gods/Force...

Truth and not sinning increases your conductivity making you more of a superconductor. this perhaps explains the idea of reincarnation, coming back as a better life/energy force, something more purer/conductive to the EU/Gods/Force energy/fields.

Does sinning increase your resistance so when you go to hell you burst into flames, so to speak! if you are more purer when you die then you are full of energy and light up so to speak. why good/happy/pure/innocent people seem to glow with energy?

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Re: Genesis 1 (v 6-8) : the second day - seperating the waters/firmaments

i find these verses confusing. from what i read i think it suggests that water was seperated into 2 places.

if it is referring to the earth then on the earth and up in the sky but very high. Not in our immediate atmosphere where there are clouds and rain but much higher than that. because it says that the firmament/expanse between the waters is the heavens. if it was the sky then or the atmosphere then it would just suggest or translate as that?

a seperation of the waters on the earth or in the solar system itself?

links, suggestions, explanations, guidance, ideas on these verses most welcome

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Genesis 1 (v 9-10) : the gathering of water and appearance of dry land

9 and·he-is-saying Elohim they-shall-be-flown-together the·waters from·under the·heavens to place one and·she-shall-be-seen the·dry and·he-is-becoming so

10 and·he-is-calling Elohim to·the·dry land and·to·confluence-of the·waters he-called seas and·he-is-seeing Elohim that good

english translation
9 And d God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry [land] appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] good.

Genesis chapter 1 verses 9-10(Hebrew Interlinear Bible)

9 And God saith, `Let the waters under the heavens be collected unto one place, and let the dry land be seen:' and it is so.

10 And God calleth to the dry land `Earth,' and to the collection of the waters He hath called `Seas;' and God seeth that [it is] good.
Genesis 1:9-10 (Young's Literal Translation) | biblegateway.com

9 And God said, let the waters that are under heaven gather themselves unto one place, that the dry land may appear: And it came so to pass.

10 And God called the dry land the earth and the gathering together of waters called he the sea. And God saw that it was good.
The First Book of Moses called Genesis | Chapter 1 verses 6-8 | Tyndale's Old Testament

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just some quick starter thoughts on this...

the water appears to have been either in the solar system, the atmosphere, in different layers or in different states around the planet? then some event happens and it gathers in one place.

could mars and earth have been covered in a layer of water then during a catastrophe the water from mars goes to earth and also mountains etc are formed on earth?

1 In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth --
2 the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness [is] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters
Genesis 1:1-2 (Young's Literal Translation) - biblegateway

was earth covered in a layer of water and had it in the atmsphere also, then an event, the earths charge changing, attracted the waters together and also terrorformed the earth?

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Joshua Chapter 10 v 11-14 - the day the earth stood still?

Joshua 10 (Young's Literal Translation)

11 And it cometh to pass, in their fleeing from the face of Israel -- they [are] in the descent of Beth-Horon -- and Jehovah hath cast upon them great stones out of the heavens, unto Azekah, and they die; more are they who have died by the hailstones than they whom the sons of Israel have slain by the sword.

12 Then speaketh Joshua to Jehovah in the day of Jehovah's giving up the Amorites before the sons of Israel, and he saith, before the eyes of Israel, `Sun -- in Gibeon stand still; and moon -- in the valley of Ajalon;'

13 and the sun standeth still, and the moon hath stood -- till the nation taketh vengeance [on] its enemies; is it not written on the Book of the Upright, `and the sun standeth in the midst of the heavens, and hath not hasted to go in -- as a perfect day?'

14 And there hath not been like that day before it or after it, for Jehovah's hearkening to the voice of a man; for Jehovah is fighting for Israel.

Joshua 10 v 11-14 (Young's Literal Translation) | biblegateway.com

11 and·he-is-becoming in·to-flee-of·them from·faces-of Israel they in·descent-of Beth-Horon and·Yahweh he-flung on·them stonesgreat-ones from the·heavens as-far-as Azekah and·they-are-dying many-ones who they-died in·stones-of the·hail from·whom they-killed sons-of Israel in·the·sword

12 then he-is-speaking Joshua to·Yahweh in·day to-give-of Yahweh the·Amorite to·faces-of sons-of Israel and·he-is-saying to·eyes-of Israel sun in·Gibeon stand-still-you ! and·moon in·vale-of Aijalon

13 and·he-is-standing-still the·sun and·moon he-stayed until he-is-avenging nation ones-being-enemies-of·him? ·not she being-written on scroll-of the·upright and·he-is-staying the·sun in·the·middle-of the·heavens and·not he-rushed to·to-set-of as·dayflawless
Joshua chapter 10 verses 11-13 (Hebrew Interlinear Bible)

The Long Day of Joshua and the Axis Tilt of Earth

Question:  One of the students is researching Joshua 10:12+ re the sun standing still – do you have any scientific/historical info on that?

Setterfield:  There is a potential answer to the matter that the question raises. You will remember the Dodwell axis tilt material. George Dodwell was the late Government Astronomer for South Australia. In his final years at the old Adelaide Observatory, he researched the tilt of the earth’s axis as given by ancient astronomers (Egyptian, Chinese, Greek, Arab etc) using a variety of methods including gnomons. The 66 data points these observers provided indicated that the earth’s axis received a change in tilt in the year 2345 BC, and that the axis has become more upright as a result of that event. Dr. Moe Mandelkehr of the USA did independent research which pointed to some event of sufficient magnitude to bring about archaeological, climatalogical and geological changes about the same time [Society of Interdisciplinary Studies ‘SIS Review’, Vol. V, 1983, p.77 ff]. Independently of these two, Dr. Benny Peiser of the Cambridge Conference group in the UK has concluded that a series of small asteroidal impacts occurred about that same time. A search on the net will bring up much of his material. Dodwell is not unique, as there are others who have come to similar conclusions. Also independently, another research group concluded that the movement of the earth’s virtual geomagnetic pole showed a sudden change in direction around 2300 BC [see Kawai et al, in Nature, Vol. 236, pp.223-225, 1972 “Archaeomagnetism in Iran”]. So the 2345 BC change in axis tilt seems to be on solid ground. 

According to the lightspeed work, this date corresponds with the end of the last ice-age, just before the birth of Abraham in 2304 BC, when the climate started to become more like we have it today. The higher axis tilt before this event allowed more extensive ice-caps along with a world climate that reflected that fact.

Well, you will be wondering how this fits in with Joshua and the behaviour of the sun and moon at his command. It relates to Dodwell’s oscillation curve that was apparent from the observations. This curve revealed oscillatory behaviour of the earth’s axis as it came to a new position of balance after the 2345 BC event. The curve indicated changes at dates roughly corresponding to Joshua’s conquest around 1550 BC (confirming the long chronology for the time of the Judges that appears in my book ‘Creation and Catastrophe’ which you may still have), again about the time of Hezekiah near 710 BC (when the sun went backwards about 10 degrees on the sundial of Ahaz), again about the time of the Crucifixion around 30-33 AD (when there was a strange darkness over the land for 3 hours, and Amos writing of that time said “I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth on a clear day, and I will turn your feast [Passover] into mourning and make it as the mourning of an only son…” Amos 8:9-19) , and again around 800-900 AD and in roughly 1400 to 1500 AD. We know the Biblical examples. These are extant records that document the 800-900 AD event as “a strange dark morning” in England; “a dark day” in Europe, and “The time the night came twice” in Africa. The 1400 AD event has been picked up in pottery from Asia where a change in magnetic pole behaviour has been recorded by the magnetic alignment of the particles in the pottery. Recall that the motion of the geomagnetic pole is involved in all this. 

Well, ultimately, we need to know what is causing these events. The original series of impacts in 2345 BC initiated the response. In any large impact, a segment of the earth’s crust is detached from the surface layers and moves through the mantle towards the earth’s core. This gives the earth, a spinning gyroscope, a new position of balance and it gradually moves to this new position. The Dodwell work indicated that the final balance position was not attained until about 1850 AD. Well, that accounts for the main axis tilt curve. But the oscillation curve is still to be explained. I will come at this from a different direction. About 10 years ago, in a store in Blackwood, South Australia, there was a sophisticated gyroscopic toy for sale. The toy consisted of a central gyroscope suspended by circular loops of metal that were able to move freely in any direction.  Idly, I set the toy spinning, then shortly after I gave it a push, corresponding to an “impact”. The gyroscope heeled over, and then in that new position started oscillating. I was amazed at what happened next. At specific points in the series of oscillations, the whole gyroscopic device underwent a figure-of-eight roll and then returned to the oscillating behaviour it had exhibited before.

Let’s look at this. Dodwell had determined the axis tilt curve from the 2345 BC impact. He had also determined the oscillation curve from the data. That curve potentially suggests that at certain key dates a change in oscillation direction will occur. Those dates roughly correspond with Joshua’s long day, Hezekiah’s sundial event, events at the time of the Crucifixion, and others. At the corresponding times, the gyroscopic toy underwent a figure of eight roll. It is possible that the earth may have behaved similarly, or at least in such a way that the objects in the heavens traced an S-shaped path in the sky. This would have a variety of effects depending where on earth the observer was when it occurred. Thus for Joshua the sun and moon remained visible in the heavens while the S-shaped path was followed. At the time of the Crucifixion, “the sun went down at noon” as Amos indicated, and then returned to resume its normal motion. There is also a reference in Job to this effect. Job was writing as an eye-witness to events in his own day. In Job 9:7 he states that God “commands the sun and it rises not…”. This is referring to the results of a similar axis tilt change due to massive impacts at the time of Peleg “when the continents were divided” (Gen. 10:25). This impact was the one that gave the earth’s axis its high tilt that resulted in the ice-age as well as drifting continents. The motion of the earth’s axis after that event in 3005 BC was similar to that from the 2345 BC event. Job was writing about 2800 BC.
The Long Day of Joshua and the Axis Tilt of Earth | setterfield.org

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We have shown that the sacred beetle was a planetary conjunction to the east at sunset. And the Djed was involved in another type of planetary conjunction. Now that would mean that there was recurring possibilities for disturbance of the axis of the Earth. Therefore it is quite difficult to ascribe the tilt differences to one main event. It might have been the last strong conjunction that produced the very small difference in tilt that was actually measured by the Chinese, I think, and noted by Dodwell. 
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as you mention in the Akashic Records thread lying is similar to "sin" and increases resistance to the flow or your connection to the EU/Gods/Force...

Truth and not sinning increases your conductivity making you more of a superconductor. this perhaps explains the idea of reincarnation, coming back as a better life/energy force, something more purer/conductive to the EU/Gods/Force energy/fields.

Does sinning increase your resistance so when you go to hell you burst into flames, so to speak! if you are more purer when you die then you are full of energy and light up so to speak. why good/happy/pure/innocent people seem to glow with energy?

I don't believe in a think that is called "Hell". This was an invention of some people that tries to control illegally the faithful people. But now that the Bible is translated in a modern language everybody can read the Truth about the life and what happens to us when we die.

The only semantic domain of the Biblical soul in the Old Testament is the Hebrew word nephesh, which literally means the "complete life of a being" though it is usually used in the sense of "living being" (breathing creature).
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephesh

The Bible states that human will die and return to dust:
"In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return."
Genesis 3:19

And all souls die:
"Look! All the souls—to me they belong. As the soul of the father so likewise the soul of the son—to me they belong. The soul that is sinning—it itself will die."
Ezekiel 18:4

Are the dead people conscious?
"For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:5

"His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground;
In that day his thoughts do perish."
Psalm 146:4

King Salomon wrote about the death following inspired words:

19  For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20  All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust. 21  Who is there knowing the spirit of the sons of mankind, whether it is ascending upward; and the spirit of the beast, whether it is descending downward to the earth?

Ecclesiastes 3:19-21

Many people believe in an immortal soul (and or in a reincarnation) because of their fear for death. It is normal to fear death, because humans has embedded the will to live forever in their hearts, it is a part of our nature to live forever!

"Everything he has made pretty in its time. Even time indefinite he has put in their heart, that mankind may never find out the work that the [true] God has made from the start to the finish."
Ecclesiastes 3:11

All people that die will have a hope to come again to life during the resurrection of the death:
"...and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous."
Acts 24:15

Again I repeat the words of Nikola Tesla, to make you note the similar ideas:
"As I see life on this planet, there is no individuality. It may sound ridiculous to say so, but I believe each person is but a wave passing through space, ever-changing from minute to minute as it travels along, finally, some day, just becoming dissolved."

The resurrection can only occur if there exist a God that is able to remember us in his vast memory and willing to remember us:
"But the very hairs of YOUR head are all numbered."
Matthew 10:30

" He is counting the number of the stars;
All of them he calls by [their] names.
 Our Lord is great and is abundant in power;
His understanding is beyond recounting."
Psalm 147:4,5

So for the dead people exist a hope based on the Holy Word of our God. His promises will set us free from the fear of death.
But for million people today there exist another electrifying hope to survive the End of this Old System and never die!

Electricity has a straight relation to the Truth. We make all part of a "electric wave", we are all forming one organism. Like the cells in a brain, individuals has their responsibility to communicate with each other. A thought is only formed by complex electric patterns in a brain. If a neuron-cell refuse to communicate (to response), then for what is this cell good for? Responsibility is not an virtue, it is the foundation of our life and consciousness. Refusing to response is comparable to refuse to live!

God would never torture a living creator reincarnating him again and again or burning him for eternity in Hell, because of the fact that God is love:
"God is love, and he that remains in love remains in union with God and God remains in union with him."
1. John 4:16

Note that the words "remaining in union" could be translated also as "connecting with his vast morphic field".

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24 yea, he casteth out the man, and causeth to dwell at the east of the garden of Eden the cherubs and the flame of the sword which is turning itself round to guard the way of the tree of life.
Genesis 3:24 (Young's Literal Translation) - biblegateway

24 After sending them out, the Lord God stationed mighty cherubim to the east of the Garden of Eden. And he placed a flaming sword that flashed back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
Genesis 3:24 (New Living Translation) - biblegateway

Do you think above/below were different events or could the planetary conjunction and the East of the Garden of Eden be a memory of what had happened? I suppose it depends on which you think came first, how old each event is, if the bible was a copy of other stories before etc

We have shown that the sacred beetle was a planetary conjunction to the east at sunset. And the Djed was involved in another type of planetary conjunction. Now that would mean that there was recurring possibilities for disturbance of the axis of the Earth. Therefore it is quite difficult to ascribe the tilt differences to one main event. It might have been the last strong conjunction that produced the very small difference in tilt that was actually measured by the Chinese, I think, and noted by Dodwell. 
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["God is love, and he that remains in love remains in union with God and God remains in union with him."
1. John 4:16

Note that the words "remaining in union" could be translated also as "connecting with his vast morphic field".

i was just looking at the Bible/Torah in a purely physical respect in the Electric Universe, nothing spiritual / morphic field / Akashic Records. I will have to start looking out for things like this to see how they might fit into a super being/energy

can you explain further your idea of God in the Electric Universe, what he/it is for starters? do you believe in just the Christian God or in other Gods of the peoples? Not talking about the faith part of it or love, just what physically you think God(s) may be. Thanks.

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i was just looking at the Bible/Torah in a purely physical respect in the Electric Universe, nothing spiritual / morphic field / Akashic Records. I will have to start looking out for things like this to see how they might fit into a super being/energy

can you explain further your idea of God in the Electric Universe, what he/it is for starters? do you believe in just the Christian God or in other Gods of the peoples? Not talking about the faith part of it or love, just what physically you think God(s) may be. Thanks.

Sure!

First most important point in my personal believe (and that of most Christians) is that God, the supreme Consciousness of all, the origin, is not an impersonal being like many atheist believes. He has a personality, he is a individual with emotions, thoughts etc. But not imperfect like the idea of "Gods of the Greeks" that behaves stupid like humans. God is almighty, absolutely perfect in thought, emotion and action. He is the impersonation of Love, his most evident characteristic. All this you can read throughout the Bible, from the very beginning Genesis to the last book Revelation.
And why I am convinced that God is not an impersonal force: because nothing comes from nothing, and humans has emotions, thoughts etc, and we are created in His image.

Second, the nature does not contain God in some way like pantheists believes. Nature reveals the power of God, it gives a proof that he exist and a proof for his superior wisdom. We can admire it and we are forced to humbly admit that nobody else than God has the right to govern us (and who is the best King of all if not God who is Love?).

Third, human is created in image of God, he is similar to God in the way that human is able to think about his own existence and purpose. The consciousness of the humans are able to reflect about the "why", animals are not able to do this, even if many animals are intelligent, but such a high consciousness that humans have is the greatest distinction to the animal reign. I want to include to this third point the fact that humans has embed into their hearts the desire to live for eternity, because they was not created to live only a few decades full of pain and then die like animals do (and the fact that humans are able to reflect about eternity should not be ignored).
But like the animals humans are "souls", that mean they are breathing creatures. We have no souls, we are souls. The dogma that humans has an immortal soul is a terrible lie that leads to an attitude of irresponsibility towards God. God has promised to "reawaken" humans in his "new world", an earth (this earth, not another planet or another dimension) freed from the actual devil system (Revelation talks about it).

Ok, I'm conscious about the fact that my believe is in strict contrast to the most "religious people". But this should not become here a debate about religion. I want only to expose my basic believe points for the further understand how I personally can harmonize religion and science.

God and the Electric Universe
The dynamic power of God is not something that we humans can perceive directly. This kind of power or energy is not the same as electricity that we can measure. But electricity is related to it in some way. If everything that exist originate from that ONE consciousness, than a kind of hierarchy exist.
Example:
A word spoken by someone carry information and meaning, in the same time this word is bound to the original consciousness that has spoken this word.

If God decide to create a world based on "matter", than he doesn't create something absolutely new. He makes an abstraction of that what already exist in an spiritual realm and in him itself.
Here on earth nothing new exist. Everything is a shadow of the origin.

So ELECTRICITY then is an abstraction of consciousness itself, revealing the self-similar nature of consciousness.
In an Electric Universe the electricity represents the consciousness as an abstraction of the original consciousness that exist in an spiritual realm.
The very basic structure of the Universe is therefor consciousness.

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and explain it you did and much more stuff   thanks for that,  lots to think about and consider

science and especially the Big Bang seemed to try to disprove a god but there was always something missing which meant there was always room for a god. the electric universe theory does not prove or disprove a god but it certainly seems to give a way/how a god could exist without a physical body (we can not see him) and how the universe could be created by a god who was electrical so to speak

at the end of day it all depends on your faith/ideas and until it is absolutely proven yes or no it will cause endless discussion and debate

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Genesis 1 (v 11-13) : the seeding of the Earth

1:11 and·he-is-saying Elohim she-shall-cause-to-vegetate the·land vegetation herbage sowing
seed tree-offruit making do fruit to·species-of·him which seed-of·him in·him on the·land
and·he-is-becoming so

1:12 and·she-is-bringing-forth the·land vegetation herbage sowing seed to·species-of·him and·tree making do fruit which seed-of·him in·him to·species-of·himand·he-is-seeing Elohim that good

1:13 and·he-is-becoming evening and·he-is-becoming morning day third
Genesis chapter 1 verses 11-13 (Hebrew Interlinear Bible)

11 And God saith, `Let the earth yield tender grass, herb sowing seed, fruit-tree (whose seed [is] in itself) making fruit after its kind, on the earth:' and it is so.

12 And the earth bringeth forth tender grass, herb sowing seed after its kind, and tree making fruit (whose seed [is] in itself) after its kind; and God seeth that [it is] good;

13 and there is an evening, and there is a morning -- day third.
Genesis 1:11-13 (Young's Literal Translation) | biblegateway.com

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how did all the kinds of plants evolve? how did we get such an amazing variety of lifeforms from plants to animals?

why were the lights of the sky formed after the plants and seeds?

were they seeded from space, did they come from other planets, did the Electric Universe (Gaia) create them from a natural design process from electromagnetic fields, was it random, gods or aliens?

one thing that needs to be noted is that the life of earth appeared from nothing, it had to start or come from somewhere but after each catrastophe that has struck the earth there has been an immense blossoming/radiation of life on this Earth.

does this show that the life either comes from the planets involved in the catastrophic events or that Gaia naturally produces the perfect life forms for the energy of the new environment of the planet?

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Genesis 1 (v 14-19) : the luminaries of the skies for signs and seasons - day 4

1:14 and·he-is-saying Elohim he-shall-become luminaries in·atmosphere-of the·heavens to·to-separate-of between the·day and·between the·night and·they-become for·signs and·for·appointments and·for·days and·years

1:15 and·they-become for·luminaries in·atmosphere-of the·heavens to·to-give-light-of on the·earth and·he-is-becoming so

1:16 and·he-is-making do Elohim two-of the·luminaries the·great-ones the·luminary the·great to·ruling-of the·day and the·luminary the·small to·ruling-of the·night and the·stars

1:17 and·he-is-giving ·them Elohim in·atmosphere-of the·heavens to·to-give-light-of on the·earth

1:18 and·to·to-rule-of in·the·day and·in·the·night and·to·to-separate-of between the·light and·between the·darkness and·he-is-seeing Elohim that good

1:19 and·he-is-becoming evening and·he-is-becoming morning day fourth
Genesis chapter 1 verses 14-19 | Hebrew Interlinear Bible

14 And God saith, `Let luminaries be in the expanse of the heavens, to make a separation between the day and the night, then they have been for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years,

15 and they have been for luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth:' and it is so.

16 And God maketh the two great luminaries, the great luminary for the rule of the day, and the small luminary -- and the stars -- for the rule of the night;

17 and God giveth them in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth,

18 and to rule over day and over night, and to make a separation between the light and the darkness; and God seeth that [it is] good;

19 and there is an evening, and there is a morning -- day fourth.
Genesis 1:14-19 (Young's Literal Translation) | biblegateway.com

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the lights of the heavens are created after the formation of the earth and the seeds/plants?

does this show that the Golden Age / Garden of Eden was a time of natural power/energy/life on earth when we didnt need or have the sun/moon that we have today? plants may have grown with more Electric Universe energy than direct sunshine? perhaps plants adapted after the change and that is why they are different sizes and different types than before?

were we in the life giving energy of one of the gas giants (saturn configuration) or much closer into the sun when it was not in the plasma glow mode it is today?

the luminaries in the heavens were meant to help us keep note of the days of the year but it is interesting that it also says signs. if the solar system has been in its supposed Newtonian clockwork system for basically forever then why and how would the luminaries give us signs and what signs would they be? could this be a mention that the planets/luminaries were the startersof planetary and solar system catastrophe, that the ancients had witnessed?