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Comet Venus - Amun-Re
« Reply #120 on: May 17, 2010, 19:23:17 »

Comet Venus - Amun-Re | light of the hidden one


Amun-Re with a feather or aurora and cometary tails?


** Amun-Re suggested by classical egyptologists to be the merger of the 2 gods Amun and Re

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However, while hidden, the addition to his name of "Re" revealed the god to humanity. Re was the common egyptian term for the Sun, thus making him visiible. Hence,, Amun-Re combined within himself the two opposites of the divinity, the hidden and the revealed. As Amun, he was secret, hidden, and mysterious, but as Re,, he was visible and revealed.
Amun-Re | touregypt.net


comets tails blue like Amun?

** blue of Amun seen in cometry tails of the many objects in the sky and the auroras of the planets. sun and electric solar system more energised combined with red sun means they were more noticeable


nubian prisoners wearing feathers or cometary bodies with tails?

**  "Feathers" seen in images = "Amun tails". blue Amun tails point away from the sun = composite of god Amun-re


Amun-Re Hieroglyphs and the feather or comets tails?

** possible mistranslation of name Amun-Re? could it mean "Amuns light" or "light of Amun" ... the light of the hidden one ?


Amun and the God Kings

** Amun more associated with near earth things than the afterlife

** Example = Ramesses Meryamun (mery-amun) = Re has fashioned him, Beloved of Amun.
Ramesses = Mars which is red like the sun and Mars appears in the aurora. If Amun was linked to the sun would it not say "Re has fashioned him, Beloved of Re"?


God King embraces Amun or God King planet seen in the aurora?

** "Beloved of" or "Chosen of" = God Kings planet location in the sky. Beloved of Amun = wrapped up or embraced in Amun


** Amun was the Aurora | Comet Venus - book written by Gary Gilligan

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Re: Comet Venus - Amun-Re
« Reply #121 on: May 17, 2010, 20:09:21 »

WOW. what a chapter. links and summarises garys previous ideas. the embrace of Amun seems to sum up the God King Scenario

the feathers or cometary tails helps me understand further the idea that these enemies of egypt were not races of people but were the enemies of their God King and therefore egypt themselves. with the fact that comets could bring catastrophe so they were the enemy of all. peoples always seemed to imagine foreign devils as that, with mystical powers, larger than life etc

are there any other alternative ideas/symbols/meanings though for the feathers?

why were those slaves or captured peoples shown with feathers? is it like the old paintings of mythology, legends and religion. those alive knew what it all meant, it was obvious, common knowledge or either esoteric knowledge. but if the world changes, time passes and common knowledge changes then it is just a painting or an image. we may understand bits of it but we also know that nothing in the images is random, it all conveys a message, tells a story


Dante with his Divine Comedy (La Divina Commedia) Michelino's fresco
shows entrance to Hell, 7 terraces of Mount Purgatory, city of Florence etc



sacrifice of Iphigenia 1671 painting



painting of the Crusades in palestine

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Comet Venus - Amun and Kingship
« Reply #122 on: May 17, 2010, 21:26:16 »


Comet Venus - Amun and Kingship


the ram as Amun-Re protecting/embracing the Pharaoh


** Astral God Kings protected/enveloped/embraced by Amun = Chosen by Amum

** Ram = protection, fertility, ability to climb cosmic mountains, strong aurora as the fleece

** Kings created by Amun. Pharaoh Amenmesses = fashioned by Amun = Mars born in the aurora or auroral characteristics



Tutankhamuns (King Tut) back of throne image and Queen Ankhesenamun


close up of King Tutankhaten (Amen-tut-ankh) blue crown from the back of his throne


** Tutankahmun = living image of Amun



Kingship



Seti/Mercury receives royal regalia from Khnum and Amun


** Amun = physical father of the King and authority to rule




** lots of images of egyptian kings/pharaohs receiving from Amun and also embracing or holding hands



** Hatshepsut = female queen = Venus when very close to earth. therefore the femal planet queen had to be worshipped as a God King.

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I believe the female queen Hatshepsut (Just and full of vitality like the Sun) was identified with Venus, as were 98% of all queens. This identification occured when Hatshepsut/Venus came so close to Earth that it outsized and outranked all other bodies. Such an exalted position demanded she be worshiped not as a queen, but as a king of Egypt. Hatshepsut was depicted as a male wearing the traditional false beard and kilt of Egyptian kings.
AMUN AND KINGSHIP | Comet Venus

** Amun and Hatshepsut have images in the "Gods wife embrace"   = Venus in the Aurora and was known as "She who embraces Amun

** The astral God Kings (planets) had immense amount of material/atmosphere removed over the millenia = offerings of gifts (food/flowers/oils etc) to the gods


info and some of the images printed with the permission of gary gilligan from his Comet Venus book and website (God King Scenario | Amun was the Aurora - Kingship)

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the mystery of the pharaoh queen Hatshepsut explained?
« Reply #123 on: May 17, 2010, 22:51:03 »

Pharaoh Queen Hatshepsut temple statue wearing beard


a good theory predicts or can explain most things, especially those troublesome variations and oddities. one of the reasons to doubt the gravity universe model is the fact that it predicts so little and nearly everything is a suprise or can not be explained without modifying or creating an absolute new theory for each thing.



mystery and puzzle of Hatchepsut the female pharaoh explained?


gary gilligan in his God King Scenario and the Comet Venus book has set forth his ideas and theories and followed through with them in a logical manner. has his theory explained one of the greatest mysteries of egyptian and its pharaohs, the Queen King Hatshepsut? A female Pharaoh who ruled as King.



Pharaoh Queen Hatshepsut mystery solved?


The God Kings were planets in our skies and linked to the Pharaoh double at the time. Gary suggests that Venus came closer to the earth than normal and was the primary planet and therefore God King in the sky.

Does this explain the false beard? After all even if a lady wore a false beard it would still be obvious she was a lady and not a man. If the planet venus had been considered a queen before this, the planet that was the royal company to the God King planets that ruled, then she took over the sky they would still consider her a queen but now she was the main God King. So you give her the symbols of power to show she does rule but also that she is still Venus, a queen.

Was there a physcial double of Venus on earth? if the God King planets were chosen to be the astral double of the Pharaoh or ruling king at that time then did they choose a lady to rule? was she linked to the king at that time? if it was a man did they have to accept a queen planet as their double?



pharaoh queen Hatshepsut (Hatchepsut) with wig of hathor?


the image above is said to be the Pharaoh Queen Hatshepsut. It seems to have the wig/crown of Hathor. was it interchangeable, is this the female Pharaoh Hatshepsut or Hathor? it seems to have large ears much like the female cow images of Hathor



queen and pharaoh Hatchepsut (Hatshepsut) as sphinx statue with ears of hathor?


the pharaohs and gods were shown in many different variations. is this showing Hatshepsut/Venus in a different location/scenario. Hathor and Hatshepsut shared a temple and it was known as the "holiest of holys".

Hatshepsut/Venus within Hathor, the celestial dust band? is that a mane around the sphinx or an auroral or plasma discharge around the planet Venus?

has the mystery of egypts female pharaoh been solved or is the answer to the puzzle of a Queen King a different solution to what gary has suggested?


one thing i did find that was interesting is the quote below

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Hathor shares this temple site with Queen Hatshepsut who has the smaller temple

Hatshepsut was one of Thutmosis II's wives. Upon the King's death, the crown passed to his son (by another wife), Thutmosis III. The young Thutmosis III ruled alongside his mother Hatshepsut, who slowly gained power before ultimately declaring herself King. Hatshepsut wore a false beard in order to be taken seriously by her subjects, and erected a number of impressive temples most of which were destroyed upon her death.
Valley of the Kings | eduweb.co.uk


the God King Scenario has Thutmosis III as the Moon. Dating of the pharaohs and rulers is very doubtful but even if we use the GKS theory to the quote above does it show that in a period of change the Moon/Thutmosis III was the largest body in the then Venus/Hatshepsut muscled her way in?

Was the Moon not normally considered a God King as it was just a normal part of our sky or does the fact that not every Pharaoh was linked to the Moon show that the Moon was a late arrival or only recently been captured in earths orbit? or was the God King planet chosen by the damage it may do as they got closer to the earth?


i think i have got most of the associations right but if i have not please let me know!









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Comet Venus - Amun and Warfare
« Reply #124 on: May 19, 2010, 06:29:43 »

Comet Venus - Amun and Warfare

** Amun  ruled through the pharaohs and they ruled through and by him

** no image of Amun smiting an enemy. he does give them weapons including the khepesh sword (invicibility).

** Montu (Mont/Month/Monthu) was the god of war. Montu wore double uraeus with the 2 plumes. Montu = intense "stormy" aurora. the warlike side of Amun/aurora


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Re: Comet Venus - Amun and Warfare
« Reply #125 on: May 19, 2010, 06:34:11 »

Re: Comet Venus - Amun and Warfare

the last paragraph of the chapter i dont understand ...

"Other sky kings incorporated Montu's name into theirs. For example, Montuhotep which means Montu is content. This is obviously an elusion to the waring aspect of Mars."

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Comet Venus - Planet Venus
« Reply #126 on: May 19, 2010, 06:46:58 »

Comet Venus - Planet Venus

** first half is physical facts about the planet Venus

** Velikovsky in "Worlds in Collision" studied ancient cultures myths and legends and concluded that they came from worldwide catastrophe and that  Venus was a new born planet, that during its birth from jupiter had appeared as a massive comet

** List of things we should find, explain or discover if Velikovsky's theory is correct. They include the Red Spot storm as the possible ejection place of Venus from Jupiter, Venus is in lock step with earth which is suggested to happen when planetary bodies have had close encounters, Venus as new planet is very hot (hottest planet in the solar system) and few impact craters ...

** Velikovsky suggests that Venus will cool down every few years as it is a new planet
 

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Comet Venus - Comet Venus
« Reply #127 on: May 19, 2010, 07:16:01 »
Comet Venus - Comet Venus


** New Kingdom Queens = Venus = 2 plumes with solar disk (normally red) enclosed by horns = Velikovskys Comet Venus when it first appeared. Red orb of hot new Venus and material being ejected part of the comet tail

** Comet Venus born from Jupiter/Ptah had encounters with earth.

** Section describing the "dirty snowball" theory of comets

** earths magnetosphere/magnetotail is seperated by the plasma sheath. if dust/debris or something lights up the magnetotail then it would appear as 2 plumes = Amuns 2 plumes in his crown

** Venus has no real magnetosphere so solar plasma wind is removing its atmosphere and also means the tail or plumes would appear to come directly from the planet with no "front" part

** Venus tail although "invisible" still touches earth when we are aligned.  Venus more stable orbit today but when planet born dust and volatiles would have been removed/ejected

** bow shock = cow horns = isis and hathor. bow shock enveloped Venus as virtually no magnetosphere. other planetary bodies also had bow shock during this time. bow shock as 2 cow horns protecting the astral kings
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Re: Comet Venus - Comet Venus
« Reply #128 on: May 19, 2010, 07:23:09 »

Re: Comet Venus - Comet Venus

have to say that i am surprised about the mention of comets as "dirty snowballs" as the Electric Universe theory seems to have predicted that they are not, and then space science is slowly proving that they are rocks and nothing to do with ice.

the electric comet theory would i think help further the claims of Planet Venus as Comet Venus, considering that when it was born its charge potential difference would have been much higher than the electric solar system it entered.

even Comet Venus was not born from Jupiter but a body from outside the solar system it would still have glowed like a comet due to the difference in charge

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Re: The Red Sun God? Why did Egyptians have a red sun God?
« Reply #129 on: May 19, 2010, 20:20:49 »
Hi all,

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"those alive knew what it all meant, it was obvious, common knowledge or either esoteric knowledge. but if the world changes, time passes and common knowledge changes then it is just a painting or an image. we may understand bits of it but we also know that nothing in the images is random, it all conveys a message, tells a story"

You've hit the nail on the head there Matt. 'Normal' in ancient times was the absolute domination of events in the heavens. The art along with every single image, picture, carving, hieroglyphs - all owes its origins to celestial events. It has little if anything to do with events here on earth apart from ancient cultures doing their best to records such events (in veneration). It's the very reason why the images and text were considered sacred. I would strongly argue ancient history is upside down!  

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"if the God King planets were chosen to be the astral double of the Pharaoh or ruling king at that time then did they choose a lady to rule? was she linked to the king at that time? if it was a man did they have to accept a queen planet as their double?"

I know what you are saying but I would put it the other way round. In the eyes of the ancients, it was the sky-gods who dictated astral kingship. Humans merely did their best to follow 'divine order.' So god-king planets came first, humans doubles chosen second.

This raises some probing questions, such as what happened if the planet king died (moved away from earth) before its human counterpart? What if the human double died before the planet? Probably too much to go into here just now, but in my first book I discuss this very issue and offer some thought provoking answers. Such as the possibility earth bound kings were ritually sacrificed at the end of their reign (following the doctrine of heaven). Egyptologists (Bob Brier) do actually discuss the possibly of this, but of course, they haven't a clue as to why the AE's may have done this.      

Hatshepsut
Obviously, the earthly Egyptian monarchy, the Egyptian elite,  did their very best to keep the royal blood line going and keep it in the family. Unfortunately chaos, many times threw up some surprising doctrines such as placing Venus/Hatshepsut as the 'foremost of the noble women.' Venus/Hatshepsut 'outsizing,' thus outranking other bodies to rule, not in her normal role as 'kings great wife,' but as Pharaoh in her own right. Her domination of the heavens meant she took on the role of intermediatary between heaven and earth. A role normally ascribed to the dominant kingly Mars (later joined by, mercury and the moon).

Notice the deep red flesh on Hatshepsut's statues. This is indicative of Venus coming close enough to earth as to reveal a deep red incandescent orb. Normally only the kings were painted the traditional deep red.

I actually think it is ludicrous to believe a female would go around wearing a false beard, kingly skirt and be depicted without breasts. We are led to believe Hatshepsut was an assertive woman who would stop at nothing in her quest to become pharaoh. And yet she then proceeds to dress up as a bloke! Absurd.  Just as with the illusive kingly crowns (none found), to my knowledge no false beards have been found. The beard should attributed to a trait shown by all bodies - cometary traits, or should I say bearded tails. The shepherds crook was planetary bodies shepherding numerous personified bodies, the kas (doubles) of the Egyptians, yet another basic trait of the sky kings. The kings also wore the flail, this was to keep the astral populace in order, a good whack should sort them out!          

Other epithets given to Venus Hatshepsut.

'Like a god she brings peace and prosperity to Egypt'
'Her beauty is unsurpassed.'

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"the image above is said to be the Pharaoh Queen Hatshepsut. It seems to have the wig/crown of Hathor. was it interchangeable, is this the female Pharaoh Hatshepsut or Hathor?"

I would personally go with the personification of Venus/Hatshepsut.

In recent documentaries Z. Hawass believes he has identified Hatshepsut's mummy, however, many Egyptologists disagree with his 'evidence.' They even go so far as to accuse him of 'following the money' with his 'Hollywood' style documentaries.  

Sphinx
Many kings and queens were depicted in sphinx form. I believe the sphinx represents a planetary body amidst the dust on the horizon. Recumbent because it appeared stationary. It's possible the front paws represent the plumed cometary tails of Comet Venus pointing towards earth.    

Gender traits and why (in short).  
Mars, once a earth-like planet basically battled itself to death. This was observed for millennia, hence Mars the god of War, and so male. Venus, basically a new planet in the process of cooling down. Trailing cometary tails but no working dynamo to destroy, no intrinsic magnetic field to rip apart, no vast oceans and mountain rages to catastrophically disperse into space - in other words, in ancient eyes, no warring, aggressive male traits observed. A beautiful and seemingly serene queen gracing our skies -  a relative passive but supportive queen to the perennial warring Mars. This was despite Venus no doubt being pummelled by space debris. Its viscous surface assimilated anything thrown at it. The sound 'glug' springs to mind.    

Hatshepsut and Thuthmose
I identify Thuthmose with the Moon predominantly (there are other reasons) because of the name i.e. Thuthmose means 'born of the god Thoth.'  As it fell under the influence of the earth, the moon went through numerous guises. Sometimes appearing relatively small (Thoth) other times outranking (out sizing) Mars, Venus, Mercury to become 'born of Thoth' and Egypt's greatest warrior pharaoh Thuthmose. The warring aspect due to the moon observed battling up incalculable amounts of debris during capture.

A rough sequential order of Hatshepsuts era.
Venus/Hatshepsut crosses the orbit of Earth with the Moon/Thuthmose and tons of other stuff in tow (following the DA of circa 1,000 B.C.) This being the main reason why Venus/Hatshepsut outranks all other bodies for about 20 years (as the record). Initially, Venus and the Moon (appearing almost equal in size) rule together but then, just as the record shows, the moon/Thuthmose III disappears from the records. He isn't mentioned anywhere. No images, no references, nothing. Thuthmose seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth. This has led Egyptologists to erroneously speculate he was away training with the army amongst other things. This is incorrect, it is simply the moon/Thuthmose vacating the skies above. I  would guess the other side of the earth, either way, the absence of records means Thuthmose as the moon wasn't seen.  Hatshepsut/Venus looming larger than ever naturally declares herself pharaoh, sole ruler, god king of Egypt. Unfortunately, the moon has other ideas, warring Thuthmose comes back into view with a vengeance. It is now the turn of Venus/Hatshepsut to literally disappear from the records. (The records shows Egypt's monarchy magically disappeared and appeared many times, hence the mass confusion over the genealogy of royal figures). It is not know what happed to Hatshepsut, no records exist as to the cause of her death.  This is because Venus either moved to the background thus warranting a name change or perhaps she reverted back to her role as 'great wife' to a version of Mars, Amenhotep II ('Amun is pleased') or even the Moon still adorning the Thuthmose name.      

A number of years later the Egyptians look back at the time when a queen ruled Egypt as king and believe this must be a mistake. How can a queen rule as god-king, our fathers must have made a mistake. They subsequently, and in light of the 'normal order' of warring kings ruling the heavens, expunge  any record of Hatshepsut from the annuls of history via a chisel.  

It is with enigmatic episodes such a Hatshepsut's reign where we will find a rough idea as to the movements of the planets.  

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Re: Comet Venus - Amun and Warfare
« Reply #130 on: May 20, 2010, 16:57:20 »

the last paragraph of the chapter i dont understand ...

"Other sky kings incorporated Montu's name into theirs. For example, Montuhotep which means Montu is content. This is obviously an elusion to the waring aspect of Mars."

The warring aspect of Mars amidst intense fiery auroral storms was attributed to the war god Montu. In an act of appeasement, the AE's so named Mars at this particular time Montuhotep meaning 'Motu is content' - meaning the god Montu is pleased, content, satisfied  (either one) because he has war, or he is in his element. 

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the power behind the throne
« Reply #131 on: May 22, 2010, 01:53:34 »
thanks gary, very informative and as interesting as always

i had wondered about what happened to the pharaoh if their planet king moved, especially when reading the stuff about pharaohs suddenly appearing to not exist. it would seem to back up the idea that the pharaoh was linked to the planets. the power behind the throne!

Hatshepsut - could she have been erased if the comet venus created disaster and catastrophe on earth or attacked another god king?


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the white net in the sky
« Reply #132 on: May 25, 2010, 07:07:20 »

read this and thought of whats been discussed. Hephaistos is an interesting god, would his lameness mean he didnt really move in the skies and his net is a white dust band?


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Perhaps Homer has passed along a useful clue: The Greeks attributed the forging of thunderbolts to Hephaistos. Homer further recounts that Hephaistos forged a net, "fine as gossamer but quite unbreakable," which he used to entangle his wife, unfaithful Aphrodite (the moon) and her tempestuous lover, Ares (the planet Mars), and bind them together long enough for several other gods to come by and make sport of them (6).

Could this net have been another of Hephaistos' electrical artifacts?

This question occurred to me one day as I was leafing through a newly purchased paperback with the rather unexciting title Gaseous Conductors- Theory and Engineering Applications (7). There on page 189 was a photograph of two spheres with sparks streaming between them. The photo caption and accompanying text described the phenomenon as the "formative stages of sphere-gap breakdown . . ." with "well-defined spark channels being propagated from anode to cathode. In addition, there is evidence of a glow discharge throughout the gap." My mind's eye saw Mars and the moon struggling to part from one another in the skies of the eighth century.

Is it conceivable that Mars and the moon could have been intimately bound- presumably orbiting one another at close range -- by gravitational and electromagnetic forces and joined by electrical streamers for so long a period - hours? days? -- as to give rise to Homer's outrageous tale?

More pointedly, could sparks have reached out and bridged empty space between two planets orbiting at a distance great enough to spare them gravitational disruption?
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Re: The Red Sun God? Why did Egyptians have a red sun God?
« Reply #133 on: May 25, 2010, 11:06:53 »
Wow, it is just breathtaking that the Juergens article was written in the 70s. It is like time has stood still since then.

The gossamer mesh could have been separate streamers of current leaving Mars or the Moon and then travelling in a spiral, and this would allow the streamers to appear to cross over each other, thus creating a mesh effect. Perhaps this could be described in terms of Birkeland Currents.

As to what orbits the planets would be in to produce such an effect, the spiralling current of streamers would need to be travelling straight towards Earth, more or less, to produce the mesh effect. So perhaps the Moon acted to protect the Earth during a conjunction with Mars when there was a full Moon, by being the cathode or anode of this current of streamers. The mesh effect could then last some days. Maybe also when not a full Moon and Mars in conjunction, the current of streamers discharged on Earth or the ionosphere and produced poor visual conditions, amongst other effects.
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Re: The Red Sun God? Why did Egyptians have a red sun God?
« Reply #134 on: May 25, 2010, 19:44:46 »
The beauty of the GKS is it gives us an historical account (chronology permitting) of the movements of the planets. The ancient Egyptians have laid out the whole sequence of events on the walls throughout Egypt. There are no half measures here, all images and sacred inscriptions record the events of above. For example the record shows that Thuthmose III led  18 consecutive military campaigns to western Asia. Leading from the front and riding a chariot of gold and electrum. This is the moon Thuthmose (born of Thoth) initially observed somewhere above Egypt only to venture north east - fearlessly crash headlong into countless tons of debris in the process. A process repeated for 18 years. It is said that he laid siege to Megiddo for 7 months, this is the moon Thuthmose appearing stationary for 7 months to the north above Megiddo. Possibly, the moon in a geosynchronous orbit.

As you know, I deem such battles impossible, more importantly totally unverified. Personally I wouldn't risk the lives of 20,000 men across blistering deserts without a good meaningful reason. If I had to go to war, I get the job done in one go, and not have to go back there year in, year out. That would be absurd!    

By the same token, I look to the history of the Hatshepsut era and see no recorded event of queen Venus attacking another god king. Besides if this physically occurred resulting in untold devastation on earth, from ground level it would be deemed as the work of the cosmogonical gods such as Sekhmet (fiery sky). Again, no record of this appears.

Around the time of Amenhotep III (Mars) 400 statues of Sekhmet have been disinterred. This reveals that the sky was deadly around this time. This is no surprise to me as this was shortly before the electromagnetic extraction of mars' core to (initially) become the Aten (Amarna period).

The record shows that after Hatshepsut's Venus magical disappearance, Thuthmose III then married a queen called Hatshepsut-Merytre ('foremost of the elite, beloved of Re?'). This cannot be a coincidence.

From this I would sumise, Hatshepsut Venus doesn't disappear - Thuthmose as the moon moves to the forefront thus outsizing Hatshepsut Venus. Venus is subsequently (naturally) demoted to become the wife of the god king Thuthmose. In doing so, she is adorned with a similar name to that previous held, Hatshepsut-Merytre (names as per location and attributes).

History reveals Mars was also around during Hatshepsut's reign. That would be the queens steward Senenmut. Among some of his titles, he was the chief architect, overseer of the works, chief steward of Amun (aurora), steward of the barque (astral), Overseer of the granaries of Amun, of the fields of Amun, of the garden of Amun, and of the weavers of Amun. For Mars to be a 'steward,' it must have been well in the background. It would next move to the foreground as Amenhotep II ('Amun is content') shortly after the 'death' (moving away or out of sight) of Thuthmose III.

All as history records, I merely transfer it to the heavens above where it belongs.  

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