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A (g)EUlogy to Geology

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A (g)EUlogy to Geology
« on: October 06, 2009, 11:32:42 »
The Geology is dead. Long live the gEUlogy!

Geology is a funny old thing. The things people will believe. Even if what you see makes zero sense compared to what you are being told. Rocks that were never there but HAD to have been there. Although something totally different is in their place now. Its not what you see its what you have been told you see.

What if you saw stalagmites found outside in the open with no cave in sight? Impossible? A (g)EUlogy to Geology?


Stalagmites in the open air with no overhanging material or roof - Death Stalagmites?

Laccoliths - mountains that are not mountains that you can see with your own eyes because they can not be mountains. Even though they look like mountains.

The Virgin River Anticline, Utah - you cant see it but it HAD to be there because there is no other alternative. But what about the domes, ridges and other geology there that does not look out of place but looks and fits in to place?

What don't you see? What do you see?

Has nature got it wrong or man?


The (g)EUlogy to Geology

** laccolith It looks like a mountain, sounds like a mountain, walks like a mountain but its not a mountain. It's a laccolith. Why. Because man says that nature can not have a mountain there made of that material. Fucking Stupid Nature.

** The Virgin River Anticline - its not there now, it doesn't look like it ever was there but it HAD to be there. Man says so. What do't you see?

** Aretes and ridges - How thin and amazing spires and spikes

** Wind Gaps and Water Gaps - rivers that have stayed flowing before the mountains they cut through were even starting to form? How long can multiple rivers around the world flow for? Has the earths climate never changed?

** 5 or 6 Super continents? - is there any other explanation for the crust of the earth going on walkabouts so many times, then coming together?

** Largest meteorites found leave no craters? - how can 60 tons of pure iron leave no impact craters?

** Tarim Basin and the Taklamakan Desert - ?



** Craters -  Why do craters never look like they were hit at an angle? Craters width depends on the strength of g? Mini craters on Malta and beside the Bahrija crater?



** Peak Blue Clay Theory and Malta's first and last layers - If Malta's Blue Clay never stops flowing out of the land....? How are Malta's first and last layers of limestone virtually the same?
These photographs are from the article on Qolla Icke.



** Grid Rock - The end of the lines for Geology?


** Death Stalagmites - Outside stalagmites and no cave popcorn?




more Electric Universe geology sites
gEUlogy.com
gEUlogy.com | articles index
** thunderbolts.info | Planetary Science
** thunderbolts TPOD | Earth Geology
EYE | gEUlogy and EU photographs



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(g)EUlogy - Tarim Basin and the Taklamakan Desert
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 11:43:17 »
If India for some reason seperated from Africa and decided to go upwards towards Asia then how is this amazing flat area there? Mountains all around it with the Tibetan Plateu to the south and yet this area is very flat?

Tarim Basin and the Taklamakan Desert
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(g)EUlogy - Wind Gaps and Water Gaps
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 11:48:30 »
Perhaps the ultimate nail in the coffin (so far) for geology. Everything goes against normal geology, environmental conditions and logic but that does not matter.

There are a number of Water Gaps in Australia that defy logic. They would have to have been there for so long it is virtually impossible that they would have had water and flown for that amount of time.

Some Water Gaps in the USA go through a few mountain ranges. This hills or mountain ranges are seperated by flat land. It seems amazing that the land would have "buckled" or whatever it is supposed to have done at the same rate and that the river was never forced to deviate from its course.

Water Gaps - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_gap
Wind Gaps - http://www.creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/44/44_3/Water_Gaps.htm

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(g)EUlogy - 5 or 6 Super continents?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 11:51:44 »
According to geology the earths land mass has been together as one super continent 5 or 6 times. So it has broken up, wanders around the earth then magically comes back together. 5 or 6 times.

The answer may lie in the fact that all the continents that exist to day fit together but on a smaller planet. If you draw the earth on a semi inflated balloon then blow it up and let it down you will see the planet you live on today. It is a growing or expanding earth. Is this a far more sensible answer because what you can see makes sense.
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Why do the largest meteorites found on earth leave no crater?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 01:46:21 »

No impact craters found with worlds largest meteorites?



The largest meteorites found on earth, iron meteorites, have never been found with a crater. They have all been found on or a few feet below the surface.  Maybe they are not meteorites but were created where they are found.

If they are from out of this world where they transported here not by moving through space but being moved by a magnetic current/pinch/force that placed them on the surface. Hence no crater.

These iron meteorites are meant to have come from the centers of destroyed planets, travelled all this way yet not left a crater. Why do they all have the same similar creation and ending? What are the odds?

Iron meteorites (worlds largest meteorites that have been found) have no impact crater

Images and photographs of iron meteorites (worlds largest discovered meteorites)


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(g)EUlogy - Aretes and Ridges
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 18:12:16 »
How does it look like mountain Aretes and Ridges formed? What don't you see?


aretes and ridges - striding edge, helvellyn mountains and Fishhook Arête in the High Sierra, USA


Straight thin Aretes and razor Ridges

Mountain Aretes and Ridges are very thin ridges or ramparts of rocks found on mountains. The above image is one of the standard aretes that you will see. The Geology theory for thier formation is that a couple of glaciers eroded the sides of the mountain away to leave these shapes that you find all over the world.

Glaciers would have to have pushed along to remove the rock. Yet you can see that there is a large outcrop along this arete. If aretes or ridges are caused by glaciers why are they at such a standard sloping angle? Why has more of the mountain been removed at the top than the bottom?

The bottom of a glacier would be under a lot more pressure than the top so you would expect the bottom to be worn away more than the top of the mountain. Why would it erode or smash away at such a smooth angle on one side of the mountain?

If the argument is used that there was less at the top of the mountain then is the idea that glaciers formed the aretes or ridges not actually needed? If the mountain was already thin or shaped like this then was a glacier involved to start with?

You will find many spires and outcrops on ridges and arets that have somehow survived being pounded and smashed by glaciers that have managed to destroy and remove the rest of the mountain.


Crazy Aretes and Ridges


Fishhook Arête (Arete), Mt. Russell, High Sierra, California, USA


The Fishhook Arête (Arete) is one of the craziest pieces of geology you will see. Notice the multiple aretes/ridges and how they curve. There is even a central short fat stub of an arete that you can see clearly in the image at the top of the page. It would be very surprising if glaciers caused these.

The only real way they could have caused them is by pushing into the top of Mount Russell. Although the problem there is that on the right hand side the arete does not meet up with the one coming down, it is not a continuous line. You can see other ridges to the right of Fishhook Arete.


Mount Russell and also photograph of it  from iceberg lake near the East Buttress, Mt Whitney


Notice how the Aretes do not seem to line up with the bottom large ridge cutting across the extended line of the ridges to the right? How would glaciers create aretes/ridges that go in different directions?

Also the ridge below it that curves is lower than the Fishhook Arete. Did the glacier not remove this material for some reason or did the top of the glacier slope up or down at an extreme angle for a glacier?


Follow through and EU scalability




Buttes and Qollas (odd shaped hills/Buttes on the islands of Malta and Gozo) also can have a small mini arete/ridge attached to one side of them. The amazingly twisted Qolla Safra (yellow hill) near Marsalforn, Giozo has a ridge/arete on the side facing the sea. It has likely has some terracing done to it to reduce it down even further. The fascinating and totally out of place "outcrop" or powergon that is "JohnPeel" also has an arete/ridge attached to it.

Are Ridges/Aretes not the result of being smashed/eroded away but a physical result of their creation? They somehow show that the Butte/Qolla/Hill/Mountain was forced/extruded into that shape. It could even be part of the energy supply to create then in an Electric Universe.

If this sounds strange you just need to look at mountain ranges and see how the ridges go at right angles, how many of them are very short and stubby. How do glaciers create right angles? How do they leave bulges/outcrops in the middle of a straight line? Why do you get so many aretes/ridges with crazy spikes/spires on top of them?

Then also look at the shapes of valleys and try to work out how come they are so smooth and the angles are so similar? V and U shaped valleys were not formed by glaciers. Just because we find glaciers in them now does not mean proof that the glaciers formed them.

Is the river there because of the valley or is the valley there because of the river?



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(g)EUlogy - Gakkel Ridge - 2 billion year old mantle rock not altered
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2009, 02:11:14 »
Gakkel Ridge - the rocks that time forgot or the theory is wrong?

Is the rock found at mid ocean ridges new rock or old rock?

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...These two-billion-year-old rocks that time forgot were found along the bottom of the Arctic Ocean floor, unearthed during research voyages in 2001 and 2004 to the Gakkel Ridge, an approximately 1,000-mile-long underwater mountain range between Greenland and Siberia. This massive underwater mountain range forms the border between the North American and Eurasian plates beneath the Arctic Ocean, where the two plates diverge.

These were the first major expeditions ever undertaken to the Gakkel Ridge, and these latest published findings are the fruit of several years of research and millions of dollars spent to retrieve and analyze these rocks.

The mantle, the rock layer that comprises about 70 percent of the Earth's mass, sits several miles below the planet's surface. Mid-ocean ridges like Gakkel, where mantle rock is slowly pushing upward to form new volcanic crust as the tectonic plates slowly move apart, is one place geologists look for clues about the mantle. Gakkel Ridge is unique because it features -- at some locations -- the least volcanic activity and most mantle exposure ever discovered on a mid-ocean ridge, allowing Snow and his colleagues to recover many mantle samples.

"I just about fell off my chair," Snow said. "We can't exaggerate how important these rocks are -- they're a window into that deep part of the Earth."

...That is when Snow realized he found something that, for many geologists, is as rare and fascinating as moon rocks -- mantle rocks devoid of sea floor alteration. Analysis of the isotopes of osmium, a noble metal rarer than platinum within the mantle rocks, indicated they were two billion years old. The use of osmium isotopes underscores the significance of the results, because using them for this type of analysis is still a new, innovative and difficult technique.

Since the mantle is slowly moving and churning within the Earth, geologists believe the mantle is a layer of well-mixed rock. Fresh mantle rock wells up at mid-ocean ridges to create new crust. As the tectonic plates move, this crust slowly makes its way to a subduction zone, a plate boundary where one plate slides underneath another and the crust is pushed back into the mantle from which it came.

Because this process takes about 200 million years, it was surprising to find rocks that had not been remixed inside the mantle for two billion years. The discovery of the rocks suggests the mantle is not as well-mixed or homogenous as geologists previously believed, revealing that the Earth's mantle preserves an older and more complex geologic history than previously thought. This opens the possibility of exploring early events on Earth through the study of ancient rocks preserved within the Earth's mantle.

Uncovering a rare, two-billion-year-old window into the Earth's mantle, a University of Houston professor and his team have found our planet's geological history is more complex than previously thought  - Science Daily .com


** Dupal anomaly?(Gakkel Ridge) -  in the Indan Ocean, Atlantic and Arctic Ocean
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How and why are the first and last layers of Malta the same and how much Blue Clay can come out of these islands?

Malta's first and last and the Peak Blue Clay Theory

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(g)EUlogy - Grid Rock - either gEUlogy or man made - if man made .... ?
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2009, 22:52:03 »
If not man made then the end of the lines for Geology?

These lines and shapes are found on a rolling hilltop at Pembroke, Malta. The thick straight lines seem to be orientated the same way, with smaller lines connecting them - Grid Rocks? SnakePlissken appears to be a connection between 2 lines. If they are not man made using Torba (why, what and when?) then they have to be natural. Either way they are a puzzle that needs to be solved.

** SnakePlissken - snake rock ** Reg - natural electrical treeing? ** Douglas - if not man made then natural

** Poppie - natural electrical discharge? ** Sophie - natural  Geology or gEUlogy ** Bob the Boulder - and God said Electric Rocks!


Grid Rocks?


** Iwan - if not natural then it is man made by whom and for what?


The thicker ridge type rock lines all appear to have the special Grey Rock covering (like a natural oxidising or transformation?) and do appear to be aligned. The Iwan line or an extension of these lines on Pembroke hill even goes down the slope where you can also find these puzzling Grid Rocks.


If these lines are man made then what for, when, who and are they Torba? if not man made then they are natural but how? Geology or gEUlogy?

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gEUlogy - Death Stalagmites? outdoor stalagmites and "no cave popcorn" ?
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 23:41:38 »
Stalagmites found outside in the open air?


Outdoors stalagmites and no cave popcorn found behind Qolla Icke, Malta

How can stalagmites be found outdoors in the open? No cave or overhead material.



Are the stalagmites found near Fomm Ir-Rih Bay a sort of Death Stalagmite, similar to Death Coral found in Purification Area in Northern Mexico?

** The Birth of Rock - Outdoor stalagmites and Death Coral


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Re: A (g)EUlogy to Geology
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2009, 05:56:12 »
According to geology the earths land mass has been together as one super continent 5 or 6 times. So it has broken up, wanders around the earth then magically comes back together. 5 or 6 times.

The answer may lie in the fact that all the continents that exist to day fit together but on a smaller planet. If you draw the earth on a semi inflated balloon then blow it up and let it down you will see the planet you live on today. It is a growing or expanding earth. Is this a far more sensible answer because what you can see makes sense



There is another possibility. Birkland currents passing over the region of where the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian oceans are now. The "S" shape of the Atlantic is particularly indicative of a Birkeland current being the cause. I have developed a pretty wild theory involving these Birkeland currents passing around other planets as well. It is an interesting subject.
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Re: A (g)EUlogy to Geology
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2009, 10:37:23 »

i like the idea of the expanding/growing earth because combined with the Electric Universe you get a possible energy/feedback system of an exchanging planet in the solar system circuit but also for the earth as Gaia. the graphic evidence also makes it an interesting idea. the XEarth site is going to be more of an investigation into the possibility of these topics. all ideas that involve the EU happy to discuss and learn as anything could have happened apart from the idea of what mainstream tells us.

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the "Dolomite Problem"
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2010, 10:37:41 »

the "Dolomite Problem"

the "Dolomite Problem" is that Dolomite, according to geology, is a sedimentary rock yet it appears to have changed through metamorphism.

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"The process is not metamorphism, but something just short of that."

the reason that Dolomite is not metamorphic is because it cant be, according to geology theory. its another classic example of nature being wrong where mans theories can not be.

if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, then it must be a duck ...

to tranform a mineral you need a supply of energy, for rocks its usually "heat energy" and we are told pressure. but any process that can provide either heat (energy) and/or pressure could do the metamorphic trick.

the earth has Telluric Currents flowing through it, massive currents of natural electricity flowing around our continents and the earth. if in the past these increased in energy or there were other inputs of energy into or going out from earth then this may have supplied energy to change rocks.

if you need pressure then electromagnetic forces can create localised pressure and exert heat/energy in a very defined area. which can explain why you get thin lines/areas of metamorphic rock amongst the host rock.



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Dolomite, which is named for the French mineralogist Deodat de Dolomieu, is a common sedimentary rock-forming mineral that can be found in massive beds several hundred feet thick. They are found all over the world and are quite common in sedimentary rock sequences. These rocks are called appropriately enough dolomite or dolomitic limestone. Disputes have arisen as to how these dolomite beds formed and the debate has been called the "Dolomite Problem". Dolomite at present time, does not form on the surface of the earth; yet massive layers of dolomite can be found in ancient rocks. That is quite a problem for sedimentologists who see sandstones, shales and limestones formed today almost before their eyes. Why no dolomite? Well there are no good simple answers, but it appears that dolomite rock is one of the few sedimentary rocks that undergoes a significant mineralogical change after it is deposited. They are originally deposited as calcite/aragonite rich limestones, but during a process call diagenesis the calcite and/or aragonite is altered to dolomite. The process is not metamorphism, but something just short of that. Magnesium rich ground waters that have a significant amount of salinity are probably crucial and warm, tropical near ocean environments are probably the best source of dolomite formation.

Dolomite in addition to the sedimentary beds is also found in metamorphic marbles, hydrothermal veins and replacement deposits. Except in its pink, curved crystal habit dolomite is hard to distinguish from its second cousin, calcite. But calcite is far more common and effervesces easily when acid is applied to it. But this is not the case with dolomite which only weakly bubbles with acid and only when the acid is warm or the dolomite is powdered. Dolomite is also slightly harder, denser and never forms scalenohedrons (calcite's most typical habit).

Dolomite differs from calcite, CaCO3, in the addition of magnesium ions to make the formula, CaMg(CO3)2. The magnesium ions are not the same size as calcium and the two ions seem incompatible in the same layer. In calcite the structure is composed of alternating layers of carbonate ions, CO3, and calcium ions. In dolomite, the magnesiums occupy one layer by themselves followed by a carbonate layer which is followed by an exclusively calcite layer and so forth. Why the alternating layers? It is probably the significant size difference between calcium and magnesium and it is more stable to group the differing sized ions into same sized layers. Other carbonate minerals that have this alternating layered structure belong to the Dolomite Group. Dolomite is the principle member of the Dolomite Group of minerals which includes ankerite, the only other somewhat common member.

Dolomite forms rhombohedrons as its typical crystal habit. But for some reason, possibly twinning, some crystals curve into saddle-shaped crystals. These crystals represent a unique crystal habit that is well known as classical dolomite. Not all crystals of dolomite are curved and some impressive specimens show well formed, sharp rhombohedrons. The luster of dolomite is unique as well and is probably the best illustration of a pearly luster. The pearl-like effect is best seen on the curved crystals as a sheen of light can sweep across the curved surface. Dolomite can be several different colors, but colorless and white are very common. However it is dolomite's pink color that sets another unique characteristic for dolomite. Crystals of dolomite are well known for their typical beautiful pink color, pearly luster and unusual crystal habit and it is these clusters that make very attractive specimens.

DOLOMITE | galleries.com/minerals


you will read that the Dolimite problem has been solved, its all due to bacteria. the Dolimite problem has not been solved in the real world though when applied to what you can see.

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Unexplained mountains are always disconcerting for geologists. But for certain sludge-dwelling bacteria, making dolomite is no problem at all.

There was a time when Earth made dolomite in great piles--piles like the Dolomite Mountains, in the Italian Alps, where French mineralogist Déodat de Dolomieu discovered the mineral in 1791. Today, though, dolomite forms in only a few select salt flats and lagoons. The mineral’s ingredients--magnesium, calcium, and carbonate ions--are common enough in seawater, but the conditions necessary for arranging the ingredients in neatly ordered, alternating layers have apparently become rare. Geologists for the last two centuries have been puzzled by the Dolomite Problem, and Judith McKenzie of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich has been preoccupied with it for almost two decades. But now she thinks she may have cracked it. Dolomite, she says, is made by a family of sulfate- consuming bacteria that may once have been far more prevalent.

McKenzie and a Brazilian graduate student, Crisogono Vasconcelos, discovered that dolomite crystals were still forming at the bottom of a lagoon near Rio de Janeiro, in an oxygen-free, sulfate-rich sludge. In general, geologists had thought that sulfate inhibits dolomite formation because negatively charged sulfate ions tend to tie up positively charged magnesium ions in water, leaving them less available for making dolomite. Magnesium is the key ingredient that distinguishes dolomite from other calcium carbonate minerals, such as limestone.

The general idea was not new: geologist Robert Folk of the University of Texas has for years claimed to see bacteria on electron micrographs of dolomite and other carbonate crystals. McKenzie decided to test the idea experimentally. She extracted bacteria from the Red Lagoon and mixed them into a simulated sludge consisting of sand, nutrients, sulfate, and all the ingredients for making dolomite. Then she put the mixture into a refrigerator. When she examined it a year later, she found a white precipitate clinging to the sand grains, holding them loosely together. Closer inspection under a scanning electron microscope revealed that the bacteria themselves were encrusted with the white crystals--which, from the way they bent X-rays, turned out to be dolomite. Bacteria-free samples of the sludge showed no crystals.

The bacteria, McKenzie thinks, convert the sulfate in the Red Lagoon from a liability into an asset, as far as dolomite formation goes. When they take in sulfate, they’re absorbing magnesium ions too. They use some of them as nutrients and excrete the rest. They do the same with calcium, and they also excrete bicarbonate ions as a by-product of respiration. In other words, the bacteria excrete all the ingredients of dolomite--thus giving those ingredients a chance to come together on their cell walls.
The Dolomite Problem | discovermagazine.com


So the Dolomite problem has been solved?


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... Sulfate-reducing bacteria probably couldn’t have made mountains of dolomite all by themselves. But once they had provided the first crystals, inorganic processes could have taken over, building on the bacterial template. Billions of years ago, McKenzie points out, before higher plants evolved, Earth’s atmosphere contained much less free oxygen, a gas sulfate reducers can’t tolerate. The bacteria may have thrived in many more places then, and that might explain why dolomite formed abundantly.

The Dolomite Mountains, Italy’s Alpi Dolomitiche, however, are a special case: the rock in them was originally simple calcium carbonate made from dead corals and seashells on the seafloor. Only later was it transformed into dolomite through the orderly addition of magnesium--and through the action, McKenzie suspects, of sulfate-reducing bacteria. Many people have thought that the problem with forming the mineral under natural conditions is to get such a high degree of ordering, explains McKenzie. What we have seen in our experiment is that a biological factor can overcome this barrier.

The Dolomite Problem | discovermagazine.com


Bacteria producing the mineral itself is no problem and is to be expected, after all our bodies and animals are made of many chemicals produced naturally. you would expect to see dolomite versions being produced around the world in different conditions. but if it is bacteria then its the metamorphic type rock layers and mountains that need to be explained.

you also have to remember that the theory of the formation of the earth is just that. a theory. and when you read about geology you will find that virtually everything they predict to be found in the earth (before they examined it) is not correct. an example is the German KTB superdeep borehole project - the water being found deep in the rocks underground and the boundary layer that had to be there but wasnt (in geology theory that is).

could the theory that did not and does not predict this stuff be wrong?

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