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Title: The strata layers of Malta - first and last level are the same!
Post by: electrobleme on June 07, 2009, 02:01:20
The Geology of the islands of Malta and Gozo

Why and how are the first and last layers the same?

** The first and last? (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=59.msg67#msg67) - Lower and Upper Coralline Limestone- how can the start and end layers of Malta's island building be the same ?

** Island of Filfla is geological opposite to the coast beside it (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=59.msg155#msg155) - ?

** the Peak Blue Clay Theory (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=59.msg69#msg69) - can this prove that geology is wrong?

** Maltese Globigerina Limestone (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=59.msg452#msg452) - Geology, use, composition and properties

** info on the  two phosphorite layers (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=59.msg451#msg451) - "the Maltese Islands two phosphorite layers occur in the Globigerina Limestone Formation"

** two beds of phosphorite pebbles? (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=59.msg451#msg451) - The formation is divided into Lower, Middle and Upper Globigerina Limestone by two beds of phosphorite pebbles.

** geological achetypes - phosphogenesis around the world - hiatus - siltstone (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=59.msg453#msg453) - Geology or gEUlogy?

The resultant rock formations are relatively simple consisting of five basic layers laid on top of the other in a layer-cake sequence:

Lower Coralline Limestone
Lower Coralline Limestone is the oldest exposed rock in the Maltese Islands, outcropping to a height of 140m in the vertical cliffs near Xlendi, Gozo. It is mainly composed of the tests of coralline algae indicating deposition in a shallow gulf environment.  Younger beds show evidence of deposition in more open marine conditions.

Globigerina Limestone
Globigerina Limestone is the second oldest rock and outcrops over approximately 70% of the area of the islands, eroding to give a broad, gently rolling landscape.  Variations in the thickness of this formation are considerable, ranging from 23m near Fort Chambray, Gozo to 207m around Marsaxlokk, Malta.   This rock consists of yellow to pale-grey limestones comprising tests of planktonic globigerinid foraminifera.  The formation is divided into Lower, Middle and Upper Globigerina Limestone by two beds of phosphorite pebbles.

Blue Clay
Blue Clay overlies the Globigerina Limestone formation.  It erodes easily when wet and forms taluses which flow out over the underlying rock. Variations in thickness are considerable ranging from 75m at Xaghra, Gozo to nil in eastern Malta, where Upper Coralline Limestone rests directly on Globigerina Limestone.  Deposition of the Blue Clay may have occurred in an open muddy water environment with water depths up to 150m for the lower part of the formation.

Greensand consists of bioclastic limestones rich in glauconite deposited in a warm sea. Unweathered sections are green but are oxidised to an orange colour when exposed.  The deposit attains a maximum thickness of 11m in localised depressions at Il-Gelmus in Gozo, but elsewhere is less than 1m thick.

Upper Coralline Limestone
The strata are very similar to the lowest stratum in the Maltese Islands. It is also named because of the abundance of the fossil algae species Coralline.  It resembles the Lower Coralline Limestone both on chemical and palaeontological grounds, indicating deposition in shallow waters.  The transition from the underlying greensands is gradual, sometimes merging into red and black granular sandstone; or red and white coralline rich limestone, which passes into a white calcareous sandstone-compact, soft or porous but always rich in organic remains. Though some layers are completely crystalline and have lost traces of the organisms from which they originated, other portions are highly fossiliferous containing casts of shells and other organisms.

These rocks are sporadically overlain by terrestrial, aeolian and alluvial deposits laid down following the emergence of the Maltese Islands above sea level.   Much of the central and south-eastern portion of the Maltese comprises outcrops of Globigerina Limestone while the northern and north-western regions are characterised by highlands on which upper coralline limestone is the dominant outcrop. The geology of Gozo is more varied than that of Malta, with more frequent outcrops of Blue Clay being a characteristic feature.

EMWIS (http://www.emwis-mt.org/documentation/Context/Physical%20factors_files/Geology.htm)

Geological map of the Isalnds of Malta and Gozo - showing limestone areas, Blue Clay and Greensand

(http://www.everythingselectric.com/images/malta-geological-map-limestone-clay-greensand-forum.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-977-malta-geological-map-limestone-clay-greensand.jpg)
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Title: The first and last - Lower and Upper Coralline Limestone
Post by: electrobleme on June 07, 2009, 02:47:21
Why are the Lower and Upper Coralline Limestone layers of Malta the same?

There are a number of things to note about the Geology of Malta. The main important fact is that the first and last levels are virtually the same.  Geology has to state that they are not the same because they are meant to have been created at the opposite ends of the formation of Malta.  Could they be the same because the same force created them not the same conditions?

Upper Coralline Limestone
It resembles the Lower Coralline Limestone both on chemical and palaeontological (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleontology) grounds, indicating deposition in shallow waters.
Amazing how in a changing world, especially the Mediterranean Sea, that the same Limestone can be created with the same fossils. Is fossilisation (http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=123&sid=9df3e885d66a09755b3f58d19b3ccace) an effect of the Electric Universe?

The transition from the underlying greensands is gradual, sometimes merging into red and black granular sandstone; or red and white coralline rich limestone, which passes into a white calcareous sandstone-compact, soft or porous but always rich in organic remains
The transition is the start of the creation of this level. In geology does this gradual merging mean it was being formed at the same time as the greensand?
If layers are created by the EU is the merging the edges of the transformation of the Upper Coralline Limestone?
Notice the variety that it merges into.

Though some layers are completely crystalline and have lost traces of the organisms from which they originated, other portions are highly fossiliferous containing casts of shells and other organisms.
Was limestone created by organisms? Think about how many and how long the conditions would have to remain the same for this to happen? This includes see currents and local conditions.
The crystalline nature may show evidence for an EU creation, along with the fossils. Or it shows that the material was affected by an EU event.
Are some simple "fossil" shells more of an EU creation than actual living creatures? A strange idea but some of the simple shells seem to be a very basic pattern, a mathematical design.  It would help to explain why both the Upper and Lower Coralline Limestone has the same type of fossils. Considering they are literally worlds apart.

If you look at the strata levels through EYEs were the layers put down in different stages or was the original material transformed at the same time?
Do the layers act like a natural electrical devise, like a capacitor, resistor or transformer for the flow of energy through the universe?

Ideas on the formation of the Malta Strata

Are the similar Lower and Upper Coralline Limestone the result of Electrofocusing (http://everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=62.0) (isoelectric focusing) or some other form of Electric Universe formation (http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1898&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15#p22445)?

Title: Globigerina Limestone - The magical yellow evening light of Malta
Post by: electrobleme on June 07, 2009, 03:03:20
This is the limestone that is the most abundant on Malta and gives it the magical glow in the evenings

The formation is divided into Lower, Middle and Upper Globigerina Limestone by two beds of phosphorite pebbles.

Why and how do you get 2 beds of pebbles? In a geology world these would have to have been deposited there at the same time that the limestone was being created.  Why 2 layers?

In the EU stones, pebbles, gemstones are thought to be the creation of localised plasma pinches. If the stratas were created or transformed by an EU event could this be how these layers were created. Or are they there for a reason to help with a sort of "Gaia" idea and that everything on the planet is there as part of components of the greater electrical circuit in and Electrical Universe?
Title: Peak Blue Clay Theory - can this prove that geology is wrong?
Post by: electrobleme on June 07, 2009, 03:32:35

It erodes easily when wet and forms taluses which flow out over the underlying rock.

Blue Clay is found in various locations around Malta and Gozo. It is continually coming out of the landscape.  If Blue Clay is only a deposit then there is a limited amount so it has to run out at some stage.  If it never stops coming out of the landscape then it is being constantly created and is not a "deposit".

One very interesting fact about the Maltese Blue Clay is that a special type of the Blue Clay is rich in micro fossils. If you want to find micro fossils in Malta's Blue Clay you need to dig in the lighter brown layers.  Could some fossilisation be a byproduct of the EU, the basic shells created naturally? If not that then the shells were fossilised during the creation or zapping of the Blue Clay.

The Blue Clay has different colour layers. When you look at the Blue Clay at Fomm ir-Rih on the Pelligrano headland you can see that the different coloured layers stretch across the different clay Talus. Why are these layers so different if it is the same Blue Clay? Does the same colour keep coming out at the same spot or do these Talus go down the slope after being extruded from the side of the slope?
It is does come out between the rock layers and goes down the slopes how do you get the same different layered colourse stretching across a whole headland?

Variations in thickness are considerable ranging from 75m at Xaghra, Gozo to nil in eastern Malta, where Upper Coralline Limestone rests directly on Globigerina Limestone
If the Blue Clay of Malta is a deposit layer then how is it missing from certain areas and yet very thick in others? Is Blue Clay related to the formation of water on Malta?

Title: Island of Filfla is geological opposite to the coast beside it
Post by: electrobleme on August 05, 2009, 20:08:29
Island of Filfla - old or new?

The principal fault (the Maghlaq fault) ...  accounts for the fact that while Filfla is composed of Upper Coralline Limestone, the coast of Malta in the same region is made up of Lower Coralline and Globigerina Limestones.
Regional Tectonics - Filfla Island's geology different to the coast (http://www.shadowservices.com/nature/Maltese/Geomorph/tectonic.htm)

Title: the 2 phosphate layers of Malta
Post by: electrobleme on December 11, 2009, 16:33:56

two phosphorite layers occur in the Globigerina Limestone Formation

Malta has 2 distinct "out of place" layers of brown phosphate normal seen as small pebbles


Summary  In the Maltese Islands two phosphorite layers occur in the Globigerina Limestone Formation (?Aquitanian to Langhian). These layers, labeled C1 and C2, display a multi-stage development with a two-stage hardground development on top (labelled lower and upper hardground).
In the lower hardground, lithification and mineralization followed a sedimentary framework betweenThalassinoides burrows, resembling the Cretaceous ‘nodular chalks’ which were marginally phosphatized when they became exposed to the sea floor. In Phosphorite Layer C2, development of this lower hardground has been superimposed by small-scale cycles. It is underlain by one or more omission surfaces each followed by phosphate-rich, bioturbated biomicrites.
Thalassinoides burrows have been filled with phosphatized particles floating in a chalk-like biomicritic matrix. Particles comprise invertebrate and vertebrate fossils, nodules and intraformational clasts, which represent the same composition as in the superjacent, upper hardground.
Biogenes consist of a diverse, mostly primary aragonitic fauna, among them assemblages of holoplanktonic gastropods of at least 25–30 species. Especially in northwest Gozo and northern Malta pteropods of the hardground layer C1 may accumulate to ooze-like concentrations, dominated by the relatively large speciesGamopleura melitensis sp. nov., exclusively known from this area so far.
Phosphatization must have taken place before dissolution of the aragonite, since many fossils are preserved as phosphatized internal moulds and in many instances the formerly aragonitic shell itself has been replaced by phosphorous minerals. Phase analyses by XR-diffraction show replacement by calcite (30–40%), by carbonate-hydroxylapatite (50–60%), and fluorellestadite (less than 10%). Lateral changes in faunal assemblages and their extraordinary good preservation suggest an autochthonous origin of the phosphatized components.
The lower hardgrounds of C1 and C2 represent the terminal product of prolonged times of non-deposition, probably caused by strong bottom currents during sea level lowstands. Phosphatized particles and sediment were trapped in burrows but have been prevented from settling on the sea floor. The upper hardground, instead, developed at times of waning bottom currents when particles could again accumulate. Only the finer chalky biomicritic sediments were winnnowed, leaving behind a phosphatized bio-rudstone which has been intensively cemented, possibly as a result of the dissolved aragonite. These sediments were deposited during a renewed sea level rise.
Phosphorite Layer C1 shows little lateral facies changes except for the faunal assemblages. Phosphorite Layer C2, instead, shows considerable lateral variations which is related to different degrees of condensation due to a more differentiated relief and/or bottom currents.
During phosphorite development oxic conditions with low input of organic carbon prevailed. This was due to increased bottom currents during times of sea level lowstands. This does not meet the conditions in an upwelling region. A possible mechanism triggering phosphogenesis is presented for the Maltese deposits.
In the appendix a description ofGamopleura melitensis sp. nov. is given, representing the major characteristic pteropod species in C1, including details on the formerly aragonitic microstructure of the exceptionally well preserved shells.

Keywords  Phosphatization - Pteropods - Sea Level - Maltese Islands - Middle Miocene
Development of phosphatized hardgrounds in the miocene Globigerina Limestone of the maltese archipelago, including a description ofGamopleura melitensis sp. nov. (Gastropoda, Euthecosomata) - springerlink .com (http://www.springerlink.com/content/tx862680637l7284/)

Title: the chemical composition of Malta's Globigerina Limestone
Post by: electrobleme on December 11, 2009, 16:39:02
Maltese Globigerina Limestone: Geology, use, composition and properties

Globigerina Limestone is primarily composed of calcium carbonate in the form of calcite crystals cemented together by non-crystalline calcium carbonate. Beside calcite, Globigerina Limestone also contains clay minerals (up to 12% depending on stone type), quartz (up to 8%), feldspars, apatite and glauconite (Cassar 1999, 2002). The formation essentially consists of fine-grained limestone full of Globigerinae which is from where it gets its name. It may also contain visible fossils: mainly scallop shells and burrowing sea urchins.
Heritage, Weathering and Conservation - Maltese Globigerina Limestone: Geology, use, composition and properties (google books) (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wRgToVcJuXgC&pg=PA728&lpg=PA728&dq=malta+blue+clay+chemical+composition&source=bl&ots=dfMkw2njwT&sig=l5hw6lErH4yuihnj87h_r42GRKI&hl=en&ei=uRUiS86ZPNLz_Ab-mey9Cg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CC0Q6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false)

Lots more on its physical properties and research into Franka and Soll
Title: geological achetypes - phosphogenesis around the world - hiatus - siltstone
Post by: electrobleme on December 11, 2009, 17:54:31

Geology linked but with  hiatus - is this gEUlogy?

How and why are there phosphate layers and pebbles in the limestone layers of the limestone island of Malta? Are they there as layers are used in capacitors and other electrical devices?

The phosphate-rich beds are associated with hiatuses and phases of important condensation which, for the oldest phosphogenic period, envelop the time period of 23·2 to 22 Ma for the Fomm Ir Rhi Bay section (Malta) and from 19·1 to 16·3 Ma for the sections of Sampieri and Modica (Sicily).
quote from  below extract - "Stratigraphy and sedimentology of phosphate-rich sediments in Malta and south-eastern Sicily (latest Oligocene to early Late Miocene)"

The amazing area of Fomm Ir-Rih Bay in Malta is the biggest visual clue to Electric Universe geology (gEUlogy) in Malta. You have the massive syncline, the Great Fault line starts or ends here, the huge curving cliffs (Irdum), a possible rim shot crater going into the Irdum, a Devils Slide, stone beach, Qolla Icke, cart ruts going off the cliff edge (missing cliff) and also the outdoor stalagmites or mineral deposits (might be recent EU activity though).

Malta and South East Sicily have been linked due to their phosphate-rich beds but also that phosphogenesis occured outside of the Mediterranean. Does this show that the same forces or process occured on a global scale or are they just local events?

The correspondence in timing of the Maltese-Sicilian phases of phosphogenesis with major phases of phosphogenesis outside the Mediterranean realm...
quote from  below extract - "Stratigraphy and sedimentology of phosphate-rich sediments in Malta and south-eastern Sicily (latest Oligocene to early Late Miocene)"

The Phosphoria Rock Complex (Phosphoria, Park City, and Goose Egg formations) is a succession of phosphorite-siltstone-chert-carbonate-evaporite lithologies deposited on the western margin of North America...

The Phosphoria Rock Complex is composed of two distinct intervals of organic matter- and phosphate-rich rocks (the Meade Peak and Retort members) that represent periods of oceanic upwelling.

The abundance of siltstone facies in the Retort suggest that iron supplied by eolian input played a major role in the preservation of sulfide, and iron fertilization may have been a factor in contributing to overall productivity and phosphogenesis. These data provide evidence that phosphogenesis in the marginal, epicontinental Phosphoria Sea occurred under paleoceanographic conditions not seen in any modern phosphogenic system and further suggests that a simple actualistic interpretation of the Phosphoria system is not valid.

"PHOSPHOGENESIS UNDER EXTREME PALEOCEANOGRAPHIC CONDITIONS" may be an indicator of EU activity, perhaps these things happened much quicker than they believe.

If the same Electric Universe Events happened around the world and similar forces were acted upon the earth then the results would vary depending on the conditions found locally. The chemical compositon of the material, if there are seas or lakes, what the physical electrical nature of the ground is (conductive, resistant, Telluric Currents etc).

The reason you get similar looking geology around the world is not due to Geology. Its amazing how the land was meant to be created so different in each area, the weather conditions over billions of years are totally different in each area yet they look similar. What are the odds?

The fact that you get variations of gemstones, minerals and metals with slightly different composition but similar is again not due to the long shot of Geology with its pressure, heat and they finally end up near the surface. They were created where they are found.

So are there local variations of the same geological archetype that show EU formation? Not just minerals but also soils, clays and rocks but with some slight variation due to local presence or lack of something(s).

Malta is a limestone island yet it has layers of Blue Clay, phosphate, quartz, sandstone and iron. So can variations of the phosphate or Blue Clay be found elsewhere? In the quote above about "The Phosphoria Rock Complex" it mentions lots of layers but also siltstone. This seems to be a geological variation of Blue Clay or the other way round.

Siltstone is made of sediment that is between sand and clay in the Wentworth grade scale; it's finer grained than sandstone but coarser than shale.

Silt is a size term used for material that's smaller than sand (generally 0.1 millimeter) but larger than clay (around 0.004 mm). The silt in this siltstone is unusually pure, containing very little sand or clay. The absence of clay matrix makes siltstone soft and crumbly, even though this specimen is many millions of years old. Siltstone is defined as having twice as much silt as clay.

The field test for siltstone is that you can't see the individual grains, but you can feel them. Many geologists rub their teeth against the stone to detect the fine grit of silt. Siltstone is much less common than sandstone or shale.

Siltstone usually forms offshore, in quieter environments than the places that make sandstone. Yet there are still currents that carry off the finest clay-size particles. This rock is laminated. It's tempting to suppose that the fine lamination represents daily tidal surges. If so, this stone might represent about a year of accumulation.

Like sandstone, siltstone changes under heat and pressure into the metamorphic rocks gneiss or schist.
Siltstone - geology.about .com (http://geology.about.com/od/rocks/ig/sedrockindex/rocpicsiltstone.htm)

Minerals can be changed to other types through heat and pressure. It is just an opinion as to how those forces were applied. Electromagnetic fields do change the physical structure of stuff and also can apply immense pressure, heat and energy. Vast electric currents flow through the Earth, they are called Telluric Currents (http://www.eskimo.com/~nanook/science/2008/02/telluric-currents.html). If you had a surge in power produced or flowing through the Earth then this could produce enough current to produce large electromagnetic fields.


The Maltese archipelago and south-eastern Sicily include an Uppermost Oligocene to Upper Miocene hemipelagic sedimentary succession representing the Malta-Hyblean plateau, which limits the eastern Mediterranean to the west. This succession hosts a unique and well-exposed series of condensed and allochthonous phosphate-rich beds, which were formed in a sedimentary regime of erosion, sediment reworking and frequent gravity-flow deposition. The combination of nannofossil biostratigraphy and 87Sr/86Sr isotope stratigraphy allows for the precise attribution of ages to the phosphate deposits and for the distinction of three periods of major phosphogenesis. The first phase occurred between 24·5 and 21 Ma and 25 and 18·9 Ma (clustering of ages between 25 and 22·5 Ma) on Malta and Sicily, respectively. The second and third phases of phosphogenesis are documented from the Maltese Islands and are dated as 17·2 to 13·1 Ma and 10·9 to 9·8 Ma, respectively. The phosphate-rich beds are associated with hiatuses and phases of important condensation which, for the oldest phosphogenic period, envelop the time period of 23·2 to 22 Ma for the Fomm Ir Rhi Bay section (Malta) and from 19·1 to 16·3 Ma for the sections of Sampieri and Modica (Sicily). For the second phase of phosphogenesis on the Maltese Islands, a consistent hiatus was found which embraces the time period of approximately 17 to 15 Ma. Also the third phase of phosphogenesis appears to be associated with a major hiatus, which probably envelops the time period between 12·5 and 10·9 Ma, but a better age control is needed here.

The correspondence in timing of the Maltese-Sicilian phases of phosphogenesis with major phases of phosphogenesis outside the Mediterranean realm, to maxima in oceanic phosphorus-burial rates and maxima in the ?13C benthic foraminiferal record suggests that the palaeoceanographic evolution of the eastern Mediterranean was well in phase with that of other ocean basins until at least the early Late Miocene, despite its increasing isolation due to the gradual closure of the Eurasian-Arabian Strait and progressive sea-level fall.

Eastern Mediterranean • latest Oligocene • Malta • Miocene • phosphate-rich sediments • phosphogenesis • Sicily
Stratigraphy and sedimentology of phosphate-rich sediments in Malta and south-eastern Sicily (latest Oligocene to early Late Miocene) - interscience.wiley .com (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120121263/abstract)

Title: Re: The strata layers of Malta - first and last level are the same!
Post by: kevin on December 11, 2009, 19:39:09
Brilliant thread,
many of the megalithic constructions are clustered on beds of underlying limestone, and many of the stones employed are made from this, locally to myself here is oolite limestone.
If you allow your mind to consider an alternate view point as regards the creation of this geology instead of the normally accepted millions of years idea, then what if an instantanious creative event repeats over shorter time spans in a cyclic fashion.
Thus sudden alterations in the harmonic resonances that permeate universe could suddenly create  and equally dissolve away vast beds of what We currently consider have accumulated over vast time.
The then interaction with this created materials with the very forces in geometric accordance to the materials would be easy to consider, and that by carefully siting said materials a manipulation of these forces locally could be achieved.
i contend that is exactly what occurs and why the megaliths and church type constructions are positioned precisely where they are and why the specific materials are utilised.
Title: harmonic resonances - ley lines - chalk rivers and Malta's Blue Clay
Post by: electrobleme on December 11, 2009, 22:55:40
The appearance and disappearance of layers due to changes in the Universes harmonic resonances and thus what is created or transformed could explain the fact that the first and last layers of malta are the same. If the local area is at the same frequency as before then you would get the similar results.
With slight variations due to what is now around it and that the earth will be a slightly different component compared to before? It could also explain why it seems that large parts of the island of Malta have vanished.

As you say old buildings/temples are located on these Ley Lines and power points, they must have known about them and would certainly want to use the natural power. Water and rivers are also important. Malta's temples are near water sources and it is interesting to note that in Norfolk, England a lot of the old and powerful places are alongside chalk rivers including the Abbeys, shrines, Sandringham and the magnificent "hill fort" of Warham Camp. It would be interesting to see what material the old buildings, tors etc are built on or are near.

The harmonics thing would also explain why they used specific stones/rock when they could have just used the ones beside the buildings? It seems strange in Malta, an island of limestone that they quarry and transport it from a distance when there is usable limestone everywhere. I understand it is of different types but they did choose very specific areas to use as quarries. What did they like or know about that bit of limestone. The Ggantija temple in Gozo is an example for certain parts of it and of course Stonehenge has its bluestones and sarsen stones.

Ancients knew of the earths and the universes natural powers, what some might call them Ley Lines today and science calls the larger ones Telluric Currents. In our Solar System from the sun to the earth (Solar Tornadoes, Flux Transfer Events etc.) and all the other Cosmic Jets etc that are found in the galaxies. All formed through electromagnetic forces and therefore they have a frequency, harmonics.

For those who want more detailed information on this (including photos) there was a good discussion about this topic on the thunderbolts forum (http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=862&hilit=vitrification), about natural power, temples, hill forts and vitrification.

Malta might be a  good place to study this idea. With lots of temples for such a small island, a "simple" geology structure of 5 layers (although still mixed up) and being isolated in the sea. It is also very electric with fantastic lightning storms, winds and a very salty sea.

I found this article below (was searching for info about Malta's Blue Clay) that shows changes in geology stuff in Malta and how the environment also changed. If you consider that the environment changes are due to the Electric Universe power...

We investigated rock outcrops spanning the middle Miocene, global climate-cooling step on the Maltese Islands in order to reconstruct continental weathering rates and terrigenous fluxes, as well as to explore the coupling between these later, regional climate and carbonate accumulations. Sedimentation at this location was dominated during the Oligocene and early Miocene by a transitional platform to slope carbonates but progressively switched to a clay-rich carbonate slope system in the middle Miocene. Around 13 Ma, an abrupt change toward clay-dominated marls occurred, and marl deposition persisted until the Tortonian (ca. 12 Ma), when a shallow-water carbonate ramp was reestablished. Clay mineralogy and bulk-rock oxygen isotope analyses suggest that the deposition of the Blue Clay formation was mainly caused by global climate change and related change in the rate of continental weathering.

A significant negative correlation (R2 = 0.65) exists between the carbonate content and the {delta}18O record. This, combined with the variation of mass accumulation rate of terrigenous material, suggests that shorter-term periods of globally cooler climate (Mi events) were associated with higher rates of accumulation in continental-derived material. Since during the Miocene Malta was attached to the North African Margin, we propose that the observed trends were due to a regional increase in rainfall during cooler periods, which consequently increased continental weathering and runoff. We further suggest that this pattern was linked to the perturbation of atmospheric fronts due to an increased thermal gradient during the Miocene. Thus, regional increase in rainfall might have been linked to the northward migration of the Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ).
Mixed carbonate-siliciclastic record on the North African margin (Malta)—coupling of weathering processes and mid Miocene climate(geoscienceworld .org)  (http://bulletin.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/115/2/217)

Title: Re: The strata layers of Malta - first and last level are the same!
Post by: kevin on December 12, 2009, 04:15:23
Lots of good pictures of malta on here.
Title: positive fulgurites? (cart ridges) and strange lines found in the cart ruts
Post by: electrobleme on December 12, 2009, 22:24:58

(http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/689-limestone-outcrops-unusual-maltesegeology.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-689-limestone-outcrops-unusual-maltesegeology.jpg)
grey rock that stands out near cart ruts site and the rock lines at pembroke, Malta

that is a good site. one thing he has also noticed is the strange "grey rock" that can be found near the cart ruts, it is a special and unique coating found near cart ruts. i have only found it near cart ruts apart from one other area, the amazing rock lines at Pembroke. is it an old thing or do the rocks have that layer because they are still exchanging things with the electric universe? is it like rock oxidizing?

if you want to have a look at cart ruts from the electric universe point of view then there is this site http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/  :)

(http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/images/bingemma-gap-nadur/girna-farmers-hunters-maltese-shelter-hut-malta-advert.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=542) (http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/images/bingemma-gap-nadur/girna-maltese-bingemmagap-victorialines-malta-advert.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-543-girna-maltese-bingemmagap-victorialines-malta.jpg)

These are "cart ridges" that can be found further along the line of the cart ruts at Bingemma Gap (http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/introdis-bingemma-gap-nadur.html) (Nadur near the  Victoria Lines). They appear, to someone (me) with Electric Universe eyes or bias, to look like lightning strikes or "positive fulgurites". Do these show signs of EU activity?
Of course the thing i have to keep reminding myself is that gEUlogy is still happening now, could these be part of the exchange system of the electric earth, like a cooling grill,power lines or cutting across some lines to they induce power?

some of the associated geology around and on the cart ruts of Malta might be evidence of EU activity or an event that happened, perhaps when the island of Malta was hit by a catastrophe to wipe out the "temple builders" ? I have also wondered if they show that or do they show that the cart ruts might have been used been used as something to do with the natural power grid system that the "temples" of malta could have been designed for.

(http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/images/san-gwann-tal-mensija/thermal-stress-cracking-chemically-altered-limestonerock-thum.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-668-thermal-stress-cracking-chemically-altered-limestonerock.jpg) (http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/images/san-gwann-tal-mensija/electric-arc-plasma-cutting-rock-thumb.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-663-electric-arc-plasma-cutting-rock.jpg)
(http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/images/san-gwann-tal-mensija/plasma-welding-laser-machining-through-rock-thum.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-659-plasma-welding-laser-machining-through-rock.jpg) (http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/images/san-gwann-tal-mensija/electrically-altered-rock-minerals-thumb.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-656-electrically-altered-rock-minerals.jpg)
these were taken at San Gwann (http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/introdis-san-gwann-junction.html) (tal-Mensija), Malta

(http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/images/clapham-junction/electricuniverse-plasmacutter-thumb.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-677-electricuniverse-plasmacutter.jpg) (http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/images/clapham-junction/natural-plasma-discharge-rock-thumb.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-687-natural-plasma-discharge-rock.jpg)
these were taken at the famous Clapham Junction cart ruts (http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/introdis-clapham-junction-south.html#ghar-il-kbir-cart-ruts-rabat) site, Malta

The above show strange lines found at the cart ruts at San Gwann and clapham junction and also at the rock lines at pembroke. Any thoughts on what they are and how the could be created?

Link to the SnakePlissken (http://www.geulogy.com/introdis-snakeplissken.html) rock line (example of one of the lines) and here is gEUlogy index/sitemap (http://www.geulogy.com/sitemap.html) where you can find links to some of the other rock lines at Pembroke, Malta (the section called "Strange rock lines - natural Electrical Treeing or evidence of Torba?"

Title: Re: The strata layers of Malta - first and last level are the same!
Post by: kevin on December 13, 2009, 04:49:42
Your  "positive fulgerites"
I think you realise I am a dowser?
, I thus view many things around what I observe whilst doing this.
I have followed many similer tracks in flattened crops whilst wandering about in fields of crops investigating crop circles.
It is confusing because very often animals take the self same peculier pathways as reguler routes.
Thus many people easily dismiss such tracks as nothing but animals tracks, I find it is not an either or neither situation, and the animals follow such pathways because they exist in a realm that is invisable to our normal senses.
but I KNOW that the tracks end /begin at a finite point that is detectable as a positive emittance point from within the planet.
The main flow of that then follows a complex route of running around small circulations that give the normal lightening fractal patterns You see often.
I have positioned myself smack on these finite points bare feeted and experienced very bizzare results( long story)

What I consider has occured with such as these Maltese ones and many vitrification places in megaliths , is that a sudden high overload discharge litterally transmutes the stone/soil present into a different formation.
i also consider flint to be a result of similer.
Title: Flint off! Paramoudras, Flint Meal and Flint Fulgurites?
Post by: electrobleme on December 14, 2009, 06:00:07
I would love to be able to feel or sense those power lines. Are there any images you have found that show part of what you can sense?

As for the flint i agree with you there. The formation of flint is still a mystery to geologists! After all these years and the fact that there is so much of it. This should show people that geology has got a lot wrong with it.

The fact that it is found in chalks and limestone means it it likely to have been transformed.  It is also found on sandy beaches so is it formed from sand as well? Wikipedia's quote is immense about it

The exact mode of formation of flint is not yet clear but it is thought that it occurs as a result of chemical changes in compressed sedimentary rock formations, during the process of diagenesis. One hypothesis is that a gelatinous material fills cavities in the sediment, such as holes bored by crustaceans or molluscs and that this becomes silicified. This theory certainly explains the complex shapes of flint nodules that are found.
Flint - wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint)

(http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/beestonbump/adverteasement-introdis-2.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=201) (http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/beestonbump/beestonbumpnorfolkbeach-bathichnus-paramoudrae-flintburrowshaft-spinalcord-advert.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=413)
Flint Circles and "Flint backbone", flint fulgurite or Bathichnus Paramoudrae - Beeston Regis, Norfolk, England beach

This theory certainly explains the complex shapes of flint nodules that are found.

(http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/beestonbump/beeston-bump-beach-norfolk-paramoudras-flints-potstones-backbone-vertebra-advert.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-392-beeston-bump-beach-norfolk-paramoudras-flints-potstones-backbone-vertebra.jpg)
Flint Paramoudras - Beeston Regis, Norfolk, England beach

These amazing giant flint concretion shapes are found on the beach near Beeston Regis, just below Beeston Bump. The geology explanations for them are amazing but I suppose they had to come up with something. The long "Bathichnus Paramoudrae" looks sort of like a fulgurite to me or created by a current or high enegy field.

I have wondered if the nodules themselves might be formed a bit like fossils, where it concentrates around something of resistance. Inside flint nodules you sometimes get "Flint Meal". This is white or dirty coloured chalk inside the flint nodule that also contains micro fossils.

The source of dissolved silica in the porous media could arise from the spicules of silicious sponges. Certain types of flint, such as that from the south coast of England, contains trapped fossilised marine flora. Pieces of coral and vegetation have been found preserved like Amber inside the flint. Thin slices of the stone often reveal this effect.
Flint - Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint)

Another idea is are flints and pebbles on beaches or coming out of cliffs still being formed today? Its not just something that happened years and years ago during an EU catastrophe but is part of the living Earth today. Similar to the Moeraki Boulders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moeraki_Boulders#) in New Zealand and the Chan Dan Ya (http://english.epochtimes.com/news/6-3-8/39075.html) - (stone) "Egg Producing Cliff" in China?

Have you ever visited Grimes Graves (http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=4800) in Norfolk? How did they know that the best flint in the world was below the surface? Were they in tune with the earth and detected it that way?

Paramoudras and flint circles (http://www.geulogy.com/introdis-beestonbump.html) - article and photographs
Flint Backbones (Bathichnus Paramoudrae) (http://www.geulogy.com/norfolk/beestonbump/flintbackbones-beestonregis.html) - article and photographs

Title: Re: The strata layers of Malta - first and last level are the same!
Post by: kevin on December 14, 2009, 20:30:28
Flint was possibly the most important material to our ancestors, it gave them much.
If you look into the construction of chalk and limestone clues are there.
Cocoliths have tiny platelets surrounding them which act as capacitors, imho.
They are found in shallow warm water and interact with the duality of plasma, imo.
These fall to the floor and form the chalk deposits.
That which made them will always interact with them no matter how they transmute.
When looking at henges archaeologists look for what is there, remnants etc, they never seem to think about what isn't there, thus when a ditch was dug , they seem oblivious to what may have been where the ditch was dug.

Then the missing substance will not have the effect it did when it was present, think in terms of a hill and a valley, it's all about scale and the gradients involved are all relative to the field patterns locality's, as so are the gradient angles of the pyramids, it's all about local geometry.
The material has a symbiotic relationship to that which made it, it interacts and modulates locally that which made it.
The incoming and emitting duality of opposite spin plasma is this STUFF.
I consider flint will occur from transmutation when overloads in the balance of these opposites occurs, litterally material will alter its lattice form, it will forget what it was and instantly reset relative to the geometry of flows involved, all the differing elements will transmute locally relative to the flows.
Everything is ONE substance, this is space in it's most basic form, space is the all aligned and orientated offering no resistance to the flows.
Where the geometry meets in space the fractal nature of this geometry leads to the periodic table of matter, and all matter is still space but it remembers how it is locally formulated as long as a balanced flow of the two sides of spin duality are present and maintained.
An earth quake is a result of an overload of one side of the duality emitting and radiating out like ripples in water, litterally the grand canyon could simply be created as the missing matter forgets how it is orientated and aligned and reverts back to space, no fire or flood involved, simply instant transmutation to basic
Such forces will make nuclear look like fire crackers, thus a veil?
Title: variations in gemstones are variations in the lattice, their fractal?
Post by: electrobleme on December 17, 2009, 22:39:19

can you confirm, correct or explain what i understand (having to sort of put it in my language to get my head round it fully)

so as long as the field, the lattice is constant the thing it has formed (like a hologram or a cymantic shape) will remain? once the field or frequency changes (input/ouyput/trandformer) it will then alter?

one of the problems i think people have is we have named things, so we say hot or cold where as the universe does not know human hot or cold, it is working on different energy/frequency levels. by naming something we limit it and us.

i once had the idea that if we can somehow change the "electrical field" of something we can then change it to anything... is this sort of the thing you are saying?

if you could have 2 points or lines, say for example things like your dowsing rods in your hand -  that could alter the lattice or change the flow between those point, the factal of that area - could you then change things between them?

the periodic table and how all things relate and transform upwards or downwards helps make your thoughts clearer - that material in that area is just changing its geometry/frequency up or down - so it has similar properties but is different. Is that why different materials react differently with each other? They are in different fractal frequencies?

does this also explain why material is similar in areas but has local differences? not due to chemicals but due to the energy lattice in the area creative a slightly different fractal - red beryl (http://www.geulogy.com/myprecious/redberyl-redemerald-utah.html), silver sandstone in Utah (http://www.geulogy.com/introdis-utah.html) for examples and precious gemstones all over the world?

Title: Re: The strata layers of Malta - first and last level are the same!
Post by: kevin on December 18, 2009, 03:57:34
"Men are like bees in a hive.....They respond unknowingly to the warmth of their unseen enivioronment"
TT Brown.
Newton was an alchemist, suppressed.
Geometry, unseen geometry.
Bees are clever, if they want a queen, they rotate the matrix structure through 90 degrees, they do this with 20 pods, the result are queens.
the Egyptians worshipped as a god the scarab beetle, it forms a ball of dung, it rolls this along a specific line, at a finite point it stops, digs a hole and puts the dung ball in it, lays an egg in the dung then covers it up.
Up pops a new scarab beetle.
Fungi amaze me, they grow in precise locations and orientations, PRECISE, fairies are seen( plasma discharges?)
I am the father, son and holy ghost( hard to see ghosts?)
Abbot suger, gothic architecture, turned through ninty degrees.
Title: transformation, creation of life influenced by energy fields?
Post by: electrobleme on December 18, 2009, 16:13:18
I agree with what you are saying about bees and fungi. The location conditions, field, energy either changes or creates the plants and animals. that is why they vary, not evolution but the electric universes affect on things. people know that EM changes how plants and crystals grow so why not dna? the fact that very rare fungi and plants are only found in precise locations means they either have spores and plants covering the whole planet (so are not that rare) or the basic spore/cell/dna is changed locally.

its not just a+b=c its a+b+eu=life

crocodile babies and other animals are either male or female depending on temperate, which is just a measurement of energy.

local energy creates or forms the life can explain very quick "evolutionary changes". i read somewhere once that one group of the famous "Darwin Finches" on an island had there own rapid change recently. A new species of bird where introduced and ate the original hosts food, so in a few generations the origanal birds beaks had changed. Was this due to evolution or the fact that the local energy fields had changed, so they responded to that? They either transformed to the change of the field or they tuned into a different food source or plants energy and changed to suit that.
the same for how there are insects, animals, plants that live, feed or work together, they tune in to the need or the field around them. they all transform into what is needed. Gaia and the feedback.

could this also explain why extinct animals or plants keep being found, the basic model is recreated. also why throughout time we have cycles of similar animals/plants but in different sizes. also why some animals have similar body parts to others either around the world or in the past.

as you can tell this is something that i have been thinking about and investigating for awhile and its great to talk to someone who will understand where i am coming from :)
Title: The Platypus Theory
Post by: electrobleme on January 29, 2010, 13:19:50

animals found as fossils although supposedly millions or billions of years from each other and todays recent animals have similar features as they are based on basic models. Gaia's different energy, morphic field and positive/negative feedback in an Electric Universe, at that moment in time influences the birth of the animals. it creates animals and plants using similar building blocks with local variations for that time.

these might be so that they create a certain energy, eat a certain food that there is lots of in the world at the time, survive in a world changed since a catastrophe or sudden abrubt climate change (non man made of course). for example the food source energy adding to the positive/negative feedback loop at the time to help create animals/plants that will use or eat it to spread its seed or just be useful)

Does this explain the Platypus? It can not have evolved as not sure how an animal can evolve from all those animals and have so many varied animal types of body parts. But if nature creates those parts and adds them on or uses instant variations of  them when it is needed then the Platypus can exist in its present form and in the past. It does not matter if the animal is "meant to have those parts", if it needs a bill for a mamal or it needs to lay eggs then it does. There are no rules or reason to stop it apart from another restriction that man has put on nature. The Platypus is a very electrical animal.

Still not sure it exists though until i see one of the little buggers with my own eyes!

Similar story with the first and last limestone layers of Malta being the same, including the fossils. Very, very unlikely with all the changes in the Earths environment that this part of the world could have the exact same conditions twice for such long periods of time. but if the earth is part of an electrical system and the field and the energy was similar then you could get the same things again?

New dinosaur discovery solves evolutionary bird puzzle

A newly discovered fossil has shed light on why a group of dinosaurs looks like birds, say scientists.

Haplocheirus sollers may not be as charismatic as T. rex or as agile as a pterodactyl but it's thought to solve a long standing puzzle.

Researchers believe its short arms and large claw show how bird-like dinosaurs evolved independently of birds.

The 3m-long skeleton, found on an expedition to China's Gobi desert, is described in the journal Science.

The fossil is a member of the Alvarezsauridae family, a group of bird-like dinosaurs. The group shares features with birds, including fused wrist elements and a loosely structured skull.

But the researchers say the new fossil shows the Alvarezsauridae group split from birds much earlier on the evolutionary tree than was thought.

"Haplocheirus is a transitional fossil," Jonah Choiniere from George Washington University told the BBC.

"Previously we thought the Alvarezsauridae were primitive, flightless birds. This discovery shows they're not and that the similarities between them evolved in parallel."

The fossil is of a nearly complete adolescent dinosaur skeleton and was found in orange mudstone beds in the Junggar Basin, Xinjiang, China.

It was spotted when a member of the team noticed the pelvis at the ground's surface. The rest of the skeleton was found only inches down.

The new dinosaur shows an early evolutionary step in the development of the short, powerful arm typical to the Alvarezsauridae group.

"The rest of the members of this group have really short forelimbs with huge muscle attachments, like body-builder arms. The fossil shows the first step in the evolution of this weird arm and claw," said Mr Choiniere.

Varied diet

The researchers believe the fossil shows development of the two diverged in the Late Jurassic period, about 160 million years ago. Until now there was no evidence of this type of dinosaur living at that time.

"It's like finding a great, great grandfather in your family which doubles the age of your family tree," said Mr Choiniere.

Scientists believe that birds descended from theropods or bird footed dinosaurs in the Late Jurassic. Theropods include alvarezsaurs, other bird-like dinosaurs including the well known Velociraptor, meat eaters like T. rex and modern birds.

Haplocheirus sollers means simple, skillful hand. The fossil shows the dinosaur had small teeth and researchers believe the claw may have been used for digging termites.

"It may have had a very general diet, tackling smaller animals like lizards, very small mammals and very small crocodile relatives," explained Mr Choiniere. "It was a lightly built animal and could run very quickly."
New dinosaur discovery solves evolutionary bird puzzle | bbc.co.uk (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8485263.stm)
Title: Re: The strata layers of Malta - first and last level are the same!
Post by: Mo on January 30, 2010, 07:05:34
Catastrophy caused the fossils, so whilst there was no catastrophies the creatures evolved quickly due to the changing conditions, without leaving any trace. Both on Mars and on Earth. So long periods of such evolution could have existed between catastrophies. One needs to keep in mind that the deposits formed very quickly so that all the fossils in a group of layers or strata were deposited at about the same time, undergoing some sorting during the lamination process occurring during deposition.

However it seems pretty clear that decay rates of elements were affected by the electrical conditions that occurred, making all radiation isotope datings rubbish, so one would expect considerable DNA changes.
Title: could local EU events create fossils?
Post by: electrobleme on January 30, 2010, 07:31:05

some good points there Mo! although my reply asks questions its because you made me think about things :)

fossil records basically only when we have catastrophe - could local events or discharges also create local fossilisation? earthquakes seem to build up then release a lot of electrical energy, if one was powerful enough could it fossil stuff?

evolution - i personally dont agree with evolution described by mainstream as creating all the life we find on earth from single cells. perhaps a mixture of evolution and the ideas i mention above could work? there is also the idea of things being transported from Mars to account for sudden changes and new animals/plants. is there anyway to tell what are mars or earth animals?

Why is the tree of life called the tree of life? did its radiation help evolve life on earth? did the discharge or energy it created fossilised some stuff? Is it the tree of life because it literally brought other life from another planet to this earth?
Title: Re: The strata layers of Malta - first and last level are the same!
Post by: Mo on January 31, 2010, 07:30:43
Fossils could have formed otherwise than just during the great sedimentation episodes. Creatures can fall into bogs or get caught in resin, etc. There is probably just not enough of these fossils to get the full picture.

is there anyway to tell what are mars or earth animals?

If no material was transported from Earth to Mars then the creatures that came from Mars might have element ratios that are different. However actual bones in fossils are hard to find, and even then one would need many samples to show conclusively that a group of fossils had a different element ratio signature. But that is a good question.

The tree of life probably appeared animated. A couple of books probably would be needed to consider what the tree of life initially was and what it came to represent. I'll pass.
Title: The Platypus Dinosaur Theory
Post by: electrobleme on April 28, 2015, 06:22:43
The Platypus Dinosaur Theory

The Platypus Dinosaur Theory - natural evolution or electromagnetic evolution creating a dinosaur that is made up of different dinosaurs?

The dinosaur version of the platypus theory (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=282.msg1312#msg1312). A good theory predicts?

Fossil hunters in Chile have unearthed the remains of a bizarre Jurassic dinosaur that combined a curious mixture of features from different prehistoric animals.

The evolutionary muddle of a beast grew to the size of a small horse and was the most abundant animal to be found 145 million years ago, in what is now the Aysén region of Patagonia.

The discovery ranks as one of the most remarkable dinosaur finds of the past 20 years, and promises to cause plenty of headaches for paleontologists hoping to place the animal in the dinosaur family tree.

“I don’t know how the evolution of dinosaurs produced this kind of animal, what kind of ecological pressures must have been at work,”

“What’s surprising is that in this locality the most bizarre dinosaur is not the exception, but the rule. It is the most abundant animal we find,” he added.

... Chilesaurus had switched diets and become a vegetarian. Meat eaters tend to have sharp teeth and large heads supported by thick necks. Chilesaurus had a horny beak, flatter teeth for chomping plants, a small head and slender neck. “It’s a therapod that turned vegetarian,” said Novas.

... Other anatomical peculiarities have surprised paleontologists. Its forelimbs were stocky, like an allosaurus, and instead of sharp claws, it sported two stumpy fingers.

... The curious form of Chilesaurus is an extreme example of mosaic convergent evolution, where different parts of an animal adapt to the environment along the same path taken by other creatures.

... “It has an unbelievably weird mixture of anatomical features. If you found isolated bones from this one animal in different places you’d probably conclude that the bones came from completely different dinosaur groups, rather than representing one unusual species,” he said.

“Some of the bones look like they belong to an early theropod, others like they belong to a group of weird plant-eating theropods called therizinosauroids and yet others look like they belong to a completely different dinosaur group, the prosauropods. A truly odd mix.”
'Bizarre' Jurassic dinosaur discovered in remarkable new find  | theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/apr/27/bizarre-jurassic-dinosaur-chilesaurus-diegosuarezi-discovered-in-remarkable-new-find)