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Title: Il-Maqluba, crater material thrown and formed an island?
Post by: electrobleme on February 20, 2010, 07:41:07
Il-Maqluba (the upturned) crater material formed an island?

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-tal-qrendi-malta-crater-sinkhole-doline-legend-myth-photograph-aerial-advert.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=1836)
Il-Maqluba (upside down), natural depression/hole/doline or Electric Universe crater?

Maqluba translated into Maltese and Arabic means the upturned, upside down, and Il-Maqluba is one of the strangest geology sites/sights you will see on the fascinating island of Malta. In theory Malta should be geological boring but has an amazing range of scenerary but perhaps Il-Maqluba not only is top of the puzzles but the legends surrounding it are also top of the puzzling list.

Il-Maqluba looks like a crater. in fact if you were not told or read any geology stuff you would say its a crater. geology is puzzled by it but says it is a doline, a sinkhole, a natural depression. the problem is why is the largest doline in Malta the only one with no debris at the bottom? similar to the rilles on Mars and Moon that are "collapsed lava tubes" yet have no collapse material and in fact are the cleanest areas on those bodies.

Il-Maqluba has many legends about it (http://www.geulogy.com/malta/maqluba-il_history_malta_maltese_myths_legends_folklore_upturned_upsidedown.html). Which are true? What is based on fact? Why would the Maltese lie about something like this? What did happen?

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/tal-maqluba-malta-legendary-pheonician-tanks-wells-Tas-Sekonda-crater-hole-banner.jpg) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=picture&id=1834)
Il-Maqluba (upside down), with Electric Universe EDM crater and tail?

Looking at it with Electric Universe EYEs it would appear to be an EDM crater. it has the same shape as other sharp crater lakes/meres around the world and perhaps "sky lights" on Mars and the Moon. It has a short tail. Opposite the tail is also a secondary smaller flatter crater as a "rim shot crater". This is hard to see from satellite images but i will eventually post some photographs that show this rim shot crater. As you would hope and expect to see with an EU crater.

Also the story fo the creation of Filfla from Il-Maqluba fits in with EUology. There are similar stories from around the world. Did they all make them up, were they all liars or are they based on some Electric Universe event?

Its getting late so i will leave this hear but i will update this post within a few days so it will change!

** Il-Maqluba (upside down) (http://www.geulogy.com/malta/maqluba-il_history_malta_maltese_myths_legends_folklore_upturned_upsidedown.html) - doline, sinkhole or Electric Universe crater?
** Il-Maqluba (upside down) (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/index.php?level=album&id=170) -  EYE photographs/images of this doline, sinkhole or Electric Universe crater?


more Electric Universe geology sites
(http://www.geulogy.com/logos/geu-small.jpg) gEUlogy.com (http://www.geulogy.com/)
(http://www.geulogy.com/logos/geu-small.jpg) gEUlogy.com (http://www.geulogy.com/sitemap/) | articles index
** thunderbolts.info (http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=4) | Planetary Science
** thunderbolts TPOD (http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/00subjectx.htm#Earth_Geology) | Earth Geology
(http://www.electricyouniverse.com/logos/eye-large.jpg)EYE | gEUlogy and EU photographs (http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/)

Title: Il-Maqluba (upturned) - Qrendi, Malta - doline or crater?
Post by: electrobleme on September 10, 2010, 01:33:36

Il-Maqluba (upturned) - Qrendi, Malta - doline or crater?

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-malta-crater-banner.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-malta-crater.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-malta-doline-banner.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-malta-doline.jpg)
Il-Maqluba (upturned) - Qrendi, Malta - doline or crater

Il-Maqluba crater is found in Qrendi near the St Matthew chapel (steps and path down the side of the church). Il-Maqluba is an amazing crater on the island of Malta. It is suggested by geology it is a sinkhole/doline but it is the only thing like it on the island and its sheer distinct sides and shape would suggest that something else other than a sinkhole formed it.

The myths and legends that surround Il-Maqluba (http://www.geulogy.com/malta/Il-Maqluba-malta-legends.html) crater suggest that during the Great Tempesta of 24 November 1343 Il-Maqluba was actually formed. That at the same time and the same Tempest the very strange island of Filfla was formed.

This sounds crazy in a Gravity Universe but there are many many tales of similar events occuring around the world at various times.

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/maqluba-malta-sinkhole-crater-banner.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta//maqluba-malta-sinkhole-crater.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/maqluba-malta-doline-crater-banner.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/maqluba-malta-doline-crater.jpg)
Il-Maqluba (upside down) - Qrendi, Malta - seconday crater or tail?

Il-Maqluba is formed at the end of the Blue Grotto wadi/valley. Il-Maqluba has a long tail that goes to the Blue Grotto and that side of it appears to have a "rim shot" crater or shows where EU EDM may have occured.

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-upturned-hole-banner.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-upturned-hole.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-upside-down-hole-banner.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-upside-down-hole.jpg)
Il-Maqluba - upside down hole - Qrendi, Malta

This section of Il-Maqluba is flat and low compared to the whole rim of the Il-Maqluba crater. The south side (narrow side) rim goes upwards and is higher than the other sections.

Is this similar to the circular bays of Malta (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=281.0) and was Il-Maqluba formed through a similar Electric Universe process?

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/tal-maqluba-upturned-hole-banner.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/tal-maqluba-upturned-hole.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-qrendi-strata-banner.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-qrendi-strata.jpg)
tal Maqluba Qrendi, Malta - twisted sides - uplifted strata on its sides

the sides going to the south and higher point of tal Maqluba show strata that goes upwards. is this evidence of either the electromagnetic force that pulled it up or twisted and gouged it out?

Title: Il-Maqluba - formation and its creation legends
Post by: electrobleme on September 10, 2010, 03:44:42
Il-Maqluba - formation and its creation legends

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-malta-aerial-advert.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-malta-aerial.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-blue-grotto-image.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/il-maqluba-blue-grotto.jpg)
Il-Maqluba, Qrendi Malta at the end of the Blue Grotto Wied/Valley

the geological explanation for the formation of Il-Maqluba, Qrendi Malta is a guess and does not make much sense with what you can see when you visit it. the sides are sheer, the shape is the same as other Electric Universe craters such as the lunettes of Australia, the Carolina Bays in America and the Meres in Norfolk, England

the floor of Il-Maqluba is fairly flat and not a downward hollow that you would expect if it was a sinkhole.

Il-Maqluba also shows signs of electric fossilisation as their are fossilised tree roots or a large pipe like creature in the north side near the curved rocks

On the 23rd November 1343, Malta experienced one of its most severe winter storms ever, possibly accompanied by an earthquake. It was at this time that il-Maqluba was formed ... Being the middle ages, this natural event was obviously turned into a legend. This legend tells us of a group of bad people living together in a hamlet. God warned the village, through a good woman living close by, against their bad ways. As the bad people did not heed these warnings, God decreed that the land swallow the hamlet, sparing none except the good woman. Angels were then dispatched to dispose of the hamlet by dumping it at sea. Legend thus tells of the formation of the island of Filfla, just off the southwest coast of Malta.
Maqluba legend| ramblersmalta (http://www.ramblersmalta.jointcomms.com/nov1906.htm)

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/filfla-blue-grotto-il-maqluba-malta-image.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/filfla-blue-grotto-il-maqluba-malta.jpg)
Il-Maqluba crater, Blue Grotto and the island of Filfla, Malta

Il-Maqluba was formed at the same time as the island of Filfla according to the local legends. they have no reason to make this up so we should accept it as based on actual events. but how can this be when it is such a crazy legend?

in a Gravity Universe it is impossible but in an Electric Universe it can start to be explained. massive EDM events during a catastrophic event that struck the earth/malta may be the answer.  the natives in America suggest that mountains appeared suddenly. so this would be a similar event for fifla. Il-Maqluba and Filfla acting as an anode/cathode system?

Fifla island is an incredible geological puzzle as its made of a different limestone layer to the rest of the coastline opposite it. the material that formed Filfla island was likely to be transformed during its rapid creation during the event.

Behind the Maqluba magnificent views comes a legend equally as impressive. Handed down through the generations, we learn of bad people living together in a small village or hamlet (Hal-Lew). Almighty God warned the village, through a good woman living close by and often referred to as a nun, against their bad ways.
Unheeding these warnings, God decreed that the land swallow the village sparing none except the good woman. In turn, angels were dispatched to dispose of the “bad village” by dumping it at sea. Legend thus tells of the formation of the island of Filfla situated some three miles to the South West of the fishing port of Wied iz-Zurrieq.
The 'Maqluba' legend |qrendiscouts.org (http://www.qrendiscouts.org/index2.htm)

(http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/blue-grotto-il-maqluba-filfla-image.jpg) (http://www.geulogy.com/images/il_maqluba_qrendi_malta/blue-grotto-il-maqluba-filfla.jpg)
Il-Maqluba at the end or the start of the Blue Grotto Wied

the reason why this happened at Qrendi may be due to the Blue Grotto Weid - this is a superb example of gEUlogy with its terraced sides, very very steep walls but it also has blasted caves especially the one at the end. was this an attractive area to the EU and so it struck or discharged here?

In Maltese folklore it is said that a giant was displeased with the local villegers so he scooped up a handfull of land and threw it into the sea, this is said to be the island of filfla
Il-Maqluba legend | virtualtourist.com (http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Malta/Off_the_Beaten_Path-Malta-BR-7.html)

Filfla is the unhappy victim of the nasty (and absurd) legend of Il-Maqluba: the evil inhabitants of Il-Maqluba so displeased God that he tore the ground from beneath them and sent them crashing through to hell. So base were they that not even hell could hold them, and in desperation the devil threw the depraved sinners (as the earth, trees, etc.) out of hell and back into the night sky. The tangles mass of rock, vegetation and godless souls landed in the sea and thus created Filfla. From such an egregious birth as that, its fate was set.
Malta, Gozo & Comino legends | books.google.co.uk (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Fevix8jSqg0C&pg=PA198&lpg=PA198&dq=Il-Maqluba&source=bl&ots=Tet0I2vGIW&sig=uynY54O8UG3HwHqCFuM9pVpP6j4&hl=en&ei=Io19S5n7OMmF_Abn68mIBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAgQ6AEwATgo#v=onepage&q=Il-Maqluba&f=false)

Title: Il-Maqluba Malta - its "tank" and folklore
Post by: electrobleme on September 10, 2010, 17:01:36
Il-Maqluba Malta - its "tank" and folklore

(http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/malta/il-maqluba-tanks-legend-myth-image.jpg) (http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/malta/il-maqluba-tanks-legend-myth.jpg)
Il-Maqluba Malta - its "tank" and legends and myths of its formation

It is like a finger pointing toward the moon...
...don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory

Il-Maqluba Malta is an amazing feature on the island of Malta. Found very close to the temples of Mnajdra (http://www.everythingiselectric.com/mnajdra_temples_malta_protective_cover_protection_scheme_photographs.html),  Hagar Qim (http://www.everythingiselectric.com/hagar_qim_temples_complex_malta_megalithics_protective_cover_photographs.html) and the Misqa tanks (http://www.everythingiselectric.com/misqa_tanks_water_mnajdratemple_egyptian_petroglyphs_conspiracy.html).

The only thing you would suggest it is not is a sinkhole, that which geology suggests it is. So what is it and why this spot in particular? In the previous post there are images showing a possible Electric Universe connection for its location. Are there any other alternative theories and can they be explained in an Electric Universe? After all if Everything Is Electric ...

(http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/myths-legends/il-maqluba-malta-tanks-silos-cisterns-image.jpg) (http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/myths-legends/il-maqluba-malta-tanks-silos-cisterns.jpg)
Il-Maqluba Malta - one of the Maltese tanks/silos/cisterns/"jars"?

You cant see the forest for all the trees

When investigating the idea of Electric Universe geology (gEUlogy) and its effect on Malta I was told by a very wise man that if Malta had been struck by an EU catastrophy as the initial evidence suggested then there should be craters. Apart from the suggested semi obvious ones such as the circular bays, Mistra Bay, the Inland Sea and its "twin" crater the Black Lagoon (Fungus Rock bay).

Shortly afterwards i found out about Il-Maqluba Qrendi and I could believe what I saw. A fantastic crater hole in the ground that is totally out of place on the island of Malta. Later I noticed a few other smaller EU craters on Malta such as the Bahrija crater (http://www.geulogy.com/introdis-craters-bahrija.html).

I visited Il-Maqluba Malta a number of times and have climbed into the crater floor. I never once noticed the Il-Maqluba "tank" or silo or cistern or jar or whatever it is or you want to call it.  It was brought to my attention by a person from Germany and I just could not understand what he was talking about .. big tank structure ... you cant miss it ...

(http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/myths-legends/maltas-tanks-silos-jars-il-maqluba-image.jpg) (http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/myths-legends/maltas-tanks-silos-jars-il-maqluba.jpg)
1 of Malta's tanks/silos/jars found at the Il-Maqluba (upturned) crater or hole

According to legend, several hundred years ago, where the small chapel stands today, there was the humble abode of an old pious lady. The lady was always admonishing the erring inhabitants of a small hamlet situated where the depression is today. One day a terrible earthquake destroyed the hamlet but the old woman's house escaped any damage and was left, perched on the edge. This chapel, according to the legend was built to commemorate this event and to serve as a reminder to erring humans.
Il-Maqluba folklore (pdf) | visitmalta.com (http://www.visitmalta.com/ebrochures/girgenti_walk.pdf)

The Il-Maqluba tank would make the strangest looking house. The inside of the tank that remains has a covering that looks like cement. There are also some holes in the top of it that are similar to the ones found at the Maltese temple doorways and walls, or could they be similar to those mentioned found in some of the Jars on the Plain of Jars, Laos (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=283.msg1457#msg1457)?

My first thought on seeing the shape and the cement combined with the fact that Malta is a limestone island was "is this a kiln?". But there is no mention of it as a kiln in history or by the locals. Even combined with the Maltese folkore about the Phoenicians digging tanks and holes at Il-Maqluba no mention of a kiln.

The cement has been analysed by a German University and they were very surprised by the results. It is a cement very similar to cement of today but it is hundreds of years old. They actually requested it to go to a special research center investigating ancient building materials.

(http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/malta/maqluba-malta-qrendi-tanks-banner.jpg) (http://www.everythingiselectric.com/images/malta/maqluba-malta-qrendi-tanks.jpg)
Maqluba Malta in Qrendi and its tank

So what is the Il-Maqluba tank and more importantly why is it on the edge of the hole/crater?

according to some studies that were done it is said that the land in around is the shallowest part of the area that the ancient Phoenicians excavated many large wells in there . A fact of that, a half remained bell shaped well is still intact and can be seen easily covered with deffun but it happened that the type of limestone in this area where these wells were dug is called Tas-Sekonda which means a type of stone very soft and inferior to the limestone, which deteriorates very quickly. Years after years ....... the heavy waters that came in melted the stones where the wells were excavated and also in that part of the land it is said that there was a natural cave in the middle (some kind like ghar dalam) when the waters came in it melted the stone tas sekonda and was swallowed in and it formed this depressed land.
It is mentioned that it happened in the 13th century when a huge tempest hit the island according to historical and scientifically facts.
The road that leads to the Maqluba is named for this tempest.
Qrendi Il-maqluba folklore | vivamalta.org (http://www.vivamalta.org/forum/showthread.php?p=59193#post59193)

The German chap who mentioned the tanks believes that the tanks on Malta such as Misqa tanks (http://www.everythingselectric.com/forum/index.php?topic=208.0), Dingli Cliffs tanks (http://www.everythingiselectric.com/dingli_cliffs_malta_photographs_tanks_templebuilders_phoenicians_romans.html) and the others were built and designed for energy purposes - be that to store, convert or produce energy.

The tanks/silos of Malta are a real puzzle. The Misqa tanks are said to be for water storage for the Temple Builders but they are on top of a hill so dont get much water flowing into them (also how did they know that the area had no fault lines or cracks in it?). The tanks at Dingli cliffs are even more of a mystery - why are they there when there is nothing in that area?

So, following through with his idea that the tanks of malta are for energy purposes could this help to explain why Il-Maqluba is there? From an Electric Universe slant if the area was an energy hot spot or there was lots of energy already there - would an EU event be more attracted to that spot?

Has the tank exploded or been blasted away? It could be suggested that the tank broke and fell into Il-Maqluba but the ground in front of it is normal for a meter or so. the next time i visit Il-Maqluba  i will check if the shape of the tank would have gone off the edge incase it could have broken off.

it was also suggested that the Il-Maqluba tank was part of a larger storage complex and that Il-Maqluba itself may have been a large "tank". at no time did he mention the infomation above about the Phoenicians so i am not sure he even knows about that bit of Maltese folklore.

so, could the great tempesta of 1343 have triggered an explosion of the Il-Maqluba tanks? remembering that the tempesta was not just a normal storm but something way beyond that. was this at the same time as the legends of the Ray of Light hill (#post_##) (tas salvatur Gozo)?